Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Why Vote for the US President?





Why should you vote for the President of the United States of America?



Most of you will never set foot into a city or county council meeting. In these forums, you generally have face to face access to policymakers that you directly elect. These men and women have a significant impact on essential aspects of your everyday life, particularly in areas like school funding, access to fire and rescue service, water and sewage policies, zoning, annexation, local tax rates, and so on. Yet, we hardly ever never rock the county or town council vote – indeed, in most cases, I bet county council debates hardly make it onto the radar compared to the hoopla surrounding the quadrennial presidential elections in the US.



The important point about these local elections cannot be stressed enough: i). You can go meet these policymakers and talk with them about issues of concern to you and your community and possibly persuade them on some matter; ii). They are directly elected by your vote and are therefore accountable to you and the coalition of voters of which you are a part.

In terms of the US president, however, the story is very different. The chances that you will ever meet the next US president (or any US president ever, for that matter) are slim to none – especially now with the intensified security practices surrounding the President following the events on 11 September 2001. Even when the fear of communist sabotage and the threat of Soviet nuclear weapons (which still exist, by the way) stalked Americans’ imagination during the Cold War, citizens were able to arrive early in the morning, wait in line outside the White House gate, and get an escorted tour of the public areas on most any day of the week. That type of open and symbolically more accessible attitude has evaporated over the past decade in regards to the President and the White House. In its place is an increasingly complicated, surveillance-intensive, and selective bureaucratic process that distances the office and the office holder from those that vote.

Even less likely are we, as average citizens living in Shepherdstown, WV, or any particular town across America, able to meet and meaningfully discuss, much less influence, the president on any issue of concern to you or your community.

On top of that, your vote, which millions of American citizens will cast in November, does not elect the president of the United States. To the surprise of many, no doubt, the US Constitution establishes an Electoral College [read here and here] with this authority. Who is the Electoral College? Robert Dahl, the distinguished professor of comparative democracy at Yale University, says that members of the Electoral College usually consist of a relatively unknown and partisan group of party loyalists.



The Electoral College, a fundamentally non-democratic and elitist feature of the US Constitution that insulates the president from the popular will, has created a dilemma for American politics that has played out on four different occasions in our history. Most recently, we saw the consequences of this Constitutional dilemma in the 2000 US election. In that instance, George W. Bush was elected to the highest office in the land because he won a majority of Electoral College votes; Al Gore won the majority of votes from American citizens, but lost the election. All in all, Dahl says that one out of every three US presidents has won with only a minority of voters’ support.

I want to bring the dilemma of our democracy home to you by asking you to reflect on your behavior.

Why should you vote for the American president? Or, if you think that you shouldn't vote for the US President, why shouldn't you vote? And, perhaps more importantly, why don’t you vote for the city and county council members? Do you know your council members?

47 comments:

  1. Why not for President? I believe voting for presidents are a waste of my time. I know it takes two minutes or even less to do. There are so many more things to do though. The presidents purpose is to help America. Every president has done that. If presidents existed before I was born then why must I vote? To give myself a name. I believe that is dumb.

    Why dont I vote for city and county council members? Do I know my council members?
    Because I never thought to. No.

    Sean Yarborough
    PSCI100
    9:10-10

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  2. I've only voted once so far but I only voted for local politicians, people who I have actually met before. Knowing these members personally makes me want to do some research on what it is they believe in or want to change. I did not vote for president because I didn't want to vote for someone who I knew little about. Since I've learned some more knowledge on politics I will make sure to be voting next time. Before I vote for president I want to make sure I know all the facts on the particular candidate so I can be sure that I am making the right decision. Even though they focus more on the electoral votes, I still want a chance to stand up for someone that has the same political views as I do.
    Many citizens probably don't vote for council members and local politicians because the media doesn't cover their views as much.


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  3. I personally do not see a point in voting for the president. Your vote does not count, so why waist the time to do it. I do not know any of the city council members nor vote for them.

    Shawn Dunford
    PSCI 100:05

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  4. I feel as if it is our duty as an American citizen to vote for the president in order for us to voice our opinion. It is frustrating to hear "my vote doesn't count." Everyone's vote counts. Also, I personally feel that is both a right and privilege to vote because in totalitarian politics, their citizens can not even vote because the state controls everyone and everything. Ironically I do know who all of the council members are, one being my father Tony Petrucci. The rest of the county council members are Jim Whitacre, Elaine Mauck, Douglas Copenhaver, and Jim Barnhart.

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    1. In North Korea, they voted, and had a 99% turn out. But I sure you can guess who won. They vote, but out of fear and out of control.

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  5. I feel mixed on the idea of votes counting or not. In a way, it does seem like your vote is just a drop in a sea of tens of millions of votes, but on the other hand, that sea is still made up of individual votes. I agree that people should vote just because they can, though. As far as local stuff goes, I know of a little bit of the city council stuff in Martinsburg because my dad ran for office a couple years ago and is very active in voicing his political opinion in the local forum there. I don't, however, know much about the Shepherdstown city council, mostly cos I've only lived here a few months and haven't had any issues with the how the town's being run.

    Joe Bochinski
    MWF 9-10 class

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  6. I have mixed feelings on the voting issue. I have yet to be able to vote for president so I haven't really put too much thought into the matter until now. Personally I feel like I should vote for the president solely because it is not a option that we have always have. People fought for the right to vote, so in a sense I feel like I should vote as a way of honoring them although our voice may not be heard, it's the thought that counts. As far as city council voting, I'm from a small town and know a majority of the people who run for office in Hinton.

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  7. Ihave mixed feelings when it comes to the presidential election. I feel as though we are taught its our duty as U.S. citizens to vote so thats why. Also all the media attention around the presidental election makes people more interested then local elections. I do plan on voting in the next election. Does my vote matter? I would like to think so, but in reality it won't effect the outcome of the election.

    I am clueless when it comes to city council and local government. I think its important for community members to be involve in that. If it was more media around that part of politics i think people would be more involved.

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  8. I think voting in not just presidential elections but in all elections is important. However, with the electoral college I think your vote counts more in some states than others. For example, if a person was to vote Democratic in a blue state or vote Republican in a red state their vote is probably not going to count as much. However, in a state like Florida, which is a huge swing state, a small amount of votes could make a big difference. Still every vote in my opinion does count. When it comes to local elections half the time I hardly even know who's running. A big reason for that is local media doesn't pay much attention to it. It would benefit the community more if we actually knew what was going on and took an interest in it.

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  9. I feel voting for the president is meaningless. The entire reason we do not directly vote for the president is because the leaders decided that the average American was to ignorant. Unfortunately I have to agree with them, as of the America today. Most citizens do not know what the Vice President's name is but the can name artists, actors or athletes. So it is no question why this basic liberty would elude our generation.

    However, I feel voting in a micro level and even for State and US Congress is important. I am one that of Washington's philosophy during his farewell address. One part of this is that political parties will lead to the failure of the country; this become more evident everyday. This is why I chose independent; in WV you can choose rather to vote for democrats or republicans. This allows to vote depending which party has the best people for the job and not because you discriminate the opposite party.

    I have not got to meet them personally, also I have not had a chance to vote for them because since I turned 18 and the last three years I have been at Shepherd during election day. Also, I do not have a vehicle to make the 4-5 hour drive home in order to vote.

    Kenneth Blosser
    PSCI100
    9:10-10

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  10. Honestly there is no point in voting for President. I voted the last round and I felt it was a waste of my time. To stand in line over an hour and just punch holes that won't even count is rediculas. However, I also think that its been so ingrained in our brains that "every vote counts" that we feel it is our duty to. We think that somehow our vote really does count and we are making a difference. Not really. I vote just to vote probably because everyone else and my parents are doing it.

    I don't vote for the city council or members. I don't know them at all actually. Probably because they don't get as much media attention as the President. Another thing is we feel we might not even make a difference and seems boring to attend a meeting. .

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  11. Voting to me is a controversial issue. In high school, they tell us you should vote it is your civic duty, but when it comes down to it why vote. Does our votes really matter? I am not so sure if I know. Most Americans vote thinking wow I am really going to make a difference with my vote but really your vote is only going to your states representatives and then they decide what is best after looking at who the majority of the state voted for. Half of me believes that Americans should vote because even though we don't have a direct say in who wins the election your vote could persuade your states electoral college to go either one way or the other. If your states representative is trustworthy, he should listen to what his people want. Plus since we have the right to vote why not take advantage of something other countries cant do.
    On the other hand, I am not so sure Americans should be voting. One because many people don't actually pay attention to anything politics; so when they are choosing who they want to vote for, they are usually basing it off one on thing they like about that politician rather than who would be a better candidate. Two, because who knows if our votes are even going towards anything. How do we know that our votes are even going towards anything? The government could just be telling us that our votes count towards something but they could just chose who they want.
    I don't vote for my city council members because I don't pay much attention to what happens in politics and I believe it wouldn't be fair if I voted if I don't know what I am voting for. Another reason is It is harder to find out when elections are because local politicians don't have as much money to campaign. I do not know my local Politicians.

    Felicia Hall
    Psci 100
    10:10-11

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  12. According to the above information, it makes no 'technical' difference if the people vote or not. However, there are several reasons why one should vote for the American President:
    1. In choosing who to vote for, you are (hopefully) critically thinking about each candidate and what policies they support; in researching this (either actively or passively), you gain a better understanding of the state of the nation, probably better than from the Presidents' State of the Union addresses.
    2. If you do NOT vote, and if few people actually do vote, you are basically telling the government they can do whatever they want, as it's showing them that you don't care and they will be even less accountable for their actions. When more people vote it's showing the government that the potential of 'people power', even if in the case of Presidential elections, this isn't exactly voting power.

    As for the local government; it is more important to vote of for these as they have a more direct impact on you. Admittedly, I am guilty of only voting for these during Presidential elections (which I have participated in since 1992), but in my case, County is the most local I can vote for since I am outside of town limits.

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  13. I have voted in the last presidential election and I did so because it meant something to me. I knew that my vote was not actually voting for the candidate that I chose, but it was a number that should up across the TV screen and seen by the Electoral College and that meant something to me. I did not vote for city council only because I did not feel I was educated enough to make a decision on who should be in office. Overall I still believe that people should vote if educated on the candidates running, therefore it is a voice of the people to those who do elect our President for us to show what we want. Although they may not always side with the majority, I can see the system was put in place to make sure those electing were educated on the candidates.

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  14. Frankly, I don't know if you should vote for President. The Electoral College is an unnecessary middleman system that takes the will of the people and can distort it to its own wishes if it wants to. This is not a democratic system, and it needs to be fixed by its own abolition. On the local level, the main barrier to voting and increased political participation is simply ignorance. I am not very well informed about my local politicians, as I assume relatively few people are. It would perhaps be in my best interest to inform myself better about local politics, since it is the level of politics that most directly affects me, but I cannot see mass participation in local elections anytime soon.

    Mike Morris
    PSCI 100
    MWF 10:10-11:00

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  15. I believe that it is useless for a person to vote via the electoral college. We dont know who these people are and what their party is. But I think that majority vote should rule in this situation. It is a better representation of what the people want.

    Joshua Hughes
    MWF 1010-11

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  16. I have mixed feelings about voting. Yes, voting is a right and as American citizens we have freedom when it comes to voitng. You do not have to vote, it is ultimately up to you. I have never voted because I was never of age to participate in voting. In the next Presidential election will I vote? I have not decided yet because part of me feels as though it does not matter if I vote. One person joining people who vote regularly is not going to change anything, it is not going to "Rock the Vote". When I say that, I mean the Presidential vote. However, part of me wants to be able to say I voted. So this is a difficult question because I see both sides of the spectrum. I wish that the Electoral College did not rule the vote, but that is how it has been for many many years now. I believe we should have a say as to who our President should be and not just have our vote count as an opinion.

    Tess Hyre
    PSCI 100
    9:10-10:00

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  17. I voted for in the last Presidential election for symbolic purpose. I have the right to vote, so why not use it? Of course I know I'm not choosing the president, but at least I can show support for the candidate I felt most fit for the job. When it comes to county government, for two years in high school I would leave class early on Thursday and attend the county commission meetings. I live in Morgan County, WV, which is much smaller than Jefferson County. It surprised me every time I attended that I was usually the only one sitting there while the commissioners discussed their agenda for the day. Most times this allowed for them to discuss matters amongst themselves, not with the public. The only time the public would know is if the newspaper wrote an article about it or if someone bothered to check the county website. I know each of the commissioners and what they stand for; I wonder how many other people can say that. At least I know when I vote it's an educated choice.


    Ashley Tomlinson
    PSCI 100:05

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  18. I think that voting for the president is useless. It seems as though the majority of our elected representatives disregard what we want anyways. As proven in the Gore-Bush election, we can vote for whoever we want and in the long run it doesn't matter because our vote doesn't count. If all of our representatives actually spoke for the people and based their decisions off who we want, I would be all for voting, but the reality of the situation is they rarely do. Therefore, I think that voting is actually pretty useless.

    Natalie Reinford
    MWF 9:10

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  19. I personally believe that there is no point in voting for the president. There have been some instances where candidates like Al Gore have lost the election, but have had more people in the country vote for him. That situation alone shows that there is no point in voting. It is almost a waste of time. The only reason why I voted for the last election was, because it was the first time that I was eligible. I actually think it is important to vote for city council members. Next time there is an election I will vote for the town council. I know two of my town's council members, and I should probably get to know all of them.

    Grant Davis
    MWF 10:10-11
    PSCI 100:05

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  20. I'm going to continue to vote. I follow the election and the candidates and then I make a collective decision to vote for who I want in office. I don't vote because of the media attention and fuss it causes. I still believe voting has some importance. I truly believe that voting is up to the individual. Voting is a right that can either be used or not. I do however believe that the electoral college is not fair. Maybe one day it will be replaced.
    I do know some local politicians but not all of them.

    Christiana Hess
    PSCI 100:04
    9:10-10:00

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  21. I personally have never voted in any election. I only just registered to vote last April on my 21st birthday. The reason is because I have never paid much attention to what's going on in politics or how it affects me. I never knew what was happening and never felt informed enough to even make a decision. Taking this class is making me more aware, but I still feel like there is so much that happens in the government that I have no idea about nor any say in, and it is hard sometimes to make a connection to it all in my life. No I don't like that we are at war, but as of yet I have not lost anyone close to me, thankfully. I know many people have though, but I still doubt that my one vote will do much good in the matter. I think that voting for local things is a good idea and I should start voting. But I want to become more informed about local issues before I vote. I think most people, especially young people, do not know how to find out information about certain issues that may affect them. We don't know when the city council meets or that we could even go to a city council meeting. No one ever tells us that we can get involved and be a part of our local government (until now). I think if we were all more informed about current events and local issues, we may be more inspired to get involved and go vote. It is hard, however, because most of us are just so busy trying to get through college and pass this test or finish that homework, and getting involved in politics seems to be on the back-burner.

    Jessica Adkins
    PSCI 100
    MWF 9:10-10:00

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  22. I have never voted for President, even though I've been able to for the last two elections. In both elections, I did not care for either candidate and chose not to vote for what I considered the lesser of two evils. Furthermore, I don't believe that the vote is used for actually electing the president, as shown by the 2000 election. I feel it's used as both a sampling of the populations vague thoughts (Red vs. Blue, but not showing how people feel about the specific issues), and as an illusion of power. If we think we can influence our politics, then we have no reason to be upset.
    I haven't voted in local politics because I've usually been far too busy and information isn't as readily available on the issues and candidates. With large races like the Presidency and Congress, you can usually go online and sort through the information. With local politics, at least in Martinsburg, there is nowhere that I can go online and learn more about the candidates. If I wanted to make the next county council session, I would have to skip a day of school or miss work.
    There's also the issue of scale. The local city council simply can not influence the issues I'm concerned with.

    Tim Graham
    PSCI 100.04
    MWF 0910-1000

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  23. I have been registered to vote since I turned eighteen, but I have never actually voted for President or in a local election. The first presidential election I was able to vote in, which was the most recent one, I felt the same way that Tim Graham before me has said--I did not particularly care for either candidate, and my vote would have been for, like he said, the lesser of two evils. Because I am registered to vote in my hometown and not here, I have not voted for any sort of local election in Shepherdstown either. I caught a lot of flack from people I know about not voting for the most recent presidential election because it is my right to vote, but I was not passionate about either candidate so I chose not to, which is also my right. I am also not sure if I will vote in the next election. Like many of my classmates have already said, I have mixed feelings about voting. Most of this is a result of, like was mentioned in the original blog post, the issues with the presence of an electoral college. I feel that it is much more problematic than anything else. I only know one of the town council members here because of a chance meeting, but other than that I am not familiar with any of them. Like I said before, this is not my hometown, I am just going to school here for the time being. Plus, I don't feel like there are any issues in Shepherdstown of which I am aware that have affected me in a blatantly negative way.

    Emily Daniels
    PSCI 100.04
    MWF 9:10 - 10:00

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  24. Honestly, I'm not even registered to vote. I will eventually but until someone (president-wise) expresses a concern that is valuable to be, I don't think I'll vote. By voting, all we're doing is showing our people of the electoral college who we'd like. It's just a suggestion, and they don't necessarily have to be influenced by it. I was the student representative on our local Board of Education for high school. It didn't matter how many times I firmly told them different outlooks and concerns, they didn't care. They had the higher authority, so it was like my voice didn't matter. I feel like city and council meetings would be the same too. Yes, I've met our town council members because it's a really small town, but I don't consider going to the meetings any time soon.

    Cassidy Rao
    PSCI 100.05
    MWF 10:10-11:00

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  25. I believe voting for the president, while it may seem meaningless, is actually important. If you do vote and the sum of your peers that think alike votes during the presidential elections it affects the electoral college votes ultimately. Because, from my understanding, I may be wrong, but the tallied votes for each party member running decides who gets the electoral votes for the entirety of that particular state. So in a sense your vote does matter indirectly, which is better than not at all.

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  26. I do not think voting in the presidential election is necessarily a waste of time, but it does depend on what state you live in. The Electoral College does decide on who will be president but only a few times in history has a member voted differently from what the population of the state they are representing voted for. But every member for each state all votes for the majority winner in their state, this is where the voting can become unfair. For example, if you vote democrat in a state that always votes republican your vote not have much meaning. In swing states were the election could go either way your vote does mean something.
    When it comes to voting for city council I think most people do not understand how they affect our everyday lives, especially younger people.

    Ryan Strong
    PSCI 100.04
    MWF 9 - 10

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  27. I voted once long ago and the realization that I came to was the amount of influence and value that you actually had wasn't worth the gasoline and time wasted on the effort (and that was when gasoline was just over $1 per gallon.
    If I had my way the government would stay out of my affairs completely and allow me to live in peace in some backwoods somewhere... The only issue with that is all of the taxation... When you actually look at your paycheck and 33% of it disappears into someone else's hand, it sort of is an unmotivating experience (and to think that rich individuals and companies can pay less than 10% on their taxes... go figure.

    F.M. Sperry
    PSCI 100

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  28. I personally believe that there really is no point to vote for the president. Like many of my classmates have already mentioned, it is simply just a waste of time. The Electoral College is who decides who is going to be the next president of the United States. I don’t agree with the way the president is elected and it doesn’t look like things are going to change any time soon. I voted last year just to be able to say I voted, I’ve always been told that you can’t complain about anything if you didn’t vote. I have never voted for a city council, but I most likely will soon start.

    Chris Grove
    MWF 10:10-11
    PSCI 100:05

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  29. I think although the electoral college has the final say, i think the voters influence the sway of the member's choice. This is because the member most likely wants to be in office again and to secure that he/she will vote based on the population's pleasing. If there was no "voting" for the president then ultimately we as a nation would not feel free anymore.

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  30. honestly since our vote doesnt count then i think it is pointless to vote. our vote literally means nothing. and i have no idea who our local council is and i also dont vote for them.

    Tre Anderson
    MWF 9:10-10
    PSCI100

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  31. I think that people vote because they think that it is their duty as American Citizens to do so. We are always taught that once we turn 18 we need to register to vote and then go out an do it. I think that if the candidate that we voted for wins we feel a sort of connection or a little better that we support our president. I think we vote because we think that it is what is right. Whether we vote or not i think it is still important to keep up on which each candidate is for or against.

    Maggie Van Vliet
    10:10-11

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  32. When I was in high school all I heard was how important it was to vote. But yet they say we are to uninformed to vote. I believe there is no point in voting for the president. My vote doesn't count. Only the electoral college vote counts. I have nothing against voting for the mayor or city council because I know my vote counts. Like some people have stated our vote influences the sway of the electoral college but I don't believe that either. I believe that they vote for what they believe is right for them not for what is right for the people.

    Amber Myers
    PSCI 100:05

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  33. I think there is some reason to vote for president. The world interacts on a global scale everyday now. The president is the face of our country and therefore we should voice some opinion, weather it's heard or not, upon who we believe that person should be. Due this very global view we have today, I think people forget or don't see the impact that local politics can play. I never really thought how much change I could make that I would be able to see myself.

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  34. I think it's important to vote for president because even though Bush won over Al Gore when he had won popular vote, doesn't mean that this happens often. This only happened because certain states like Ohio and Florida were won by Bush. I'm from Virginia and voting can make a difference and does count, so I think it's worth a try. And for the last question, I have filled out my absentee ballot and I actually am casting my vote for council members on April first. (Arlington county board and 8th district) I think this is important because board members run the local politics, and don't have all the say in the world, but they are helpful for things that are local and things that matter close to me. I mean, go ahead and say we shouldn't vote for these things, but it can't hurt much, so why not?
    Carrie Maggio
    MWF 9:10-10
    PSCI100

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  35. I believe we should still vote for the President. If you think about it, why would the people take the time to make polls, make the questions, enter every candidate's name in the computer, and waste their whole day at an election building when they could be out enjoying their day. it's obvious our votes matter, the government would not makes vote if they didn't matter. The votes of the American people have ALWAYS mattered, even back hundreds of years ago. We still need to vote for this President because this is our country. Were suppose to show them we care about America.

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  36. I believe that voting isn't the most important thing to do in today's society. I'm from Maryland and it seems that the voting is majorly for one candidate. It is not even close so even if i did vote, it wouldn't matter. The vote is so unproportionate that either way I voted, the same candidate would win, so what's the point. I have not had the opportunity to vote but I still plan to although I don't think my vote will have much effect, at least for president. I will vote and try my best to make sure my thoughts are heard but we will see what happens. People in charge should be what the majority of people want there, and the electoral college does not provide that all the time and I do not like that. I believe the people in charge should be what America decides.

    Gabriel Castro
    PSCI 100:05

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  37. I personally don't have an opinion for voting for president. I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, and honestly I don't think it makes much of a difference whether you vote or not. If voting makes you feel better, then go ahead and vote--and if you think that not voting is a worthy political act, then you shouldn't vote. I don't think anyone's opinion on voting for president really matters, because nobody gets the president they were really expecting anyway. Even if your vote counted, politicians just say things to appeal to the masses; that way they gain enough support to make their way into office.

    I don't vote for city or county council, mostly because I couldn't care less about the area I live in. I plan on moving elsewhere once I'm finished my college years, and I wasn't born here so I have no misplaced sense of loyalty. County members seem a bit insignificant anyway. I don't know my council members, and I don't really care to know them.

    Nanette Yessler
    PSCI 100:04
    9:10am-10:00am

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  38. I do not vote and probably never will, to be honest. As long as there is a committee pretty much controlling who is chosen for the presidency I will not. It is already been decided against popular vote before with George Bush Jr and can be again at any time. The reality is that none of our votes actually count toward the presidential office. I mean come on, even the popular vote could be change, we use electronic ballets. You can go into a system and change two variables with complete ease if you know what you're doing.

    In my opinion, our "democracy" and "Voting" is a complete fallacy and mask for our real elite controlling system. There are almost zero politicians that actually represent the people's ideals, very little. If you really want to control a populace, give them the illusion that they have rights, freedoms, and control of their country.

    I have never voted for a town council or any sort o position. It seems like a waste of my time, because personally I do not enjoy any level of politics. I believe people should be able to do as they please, as long as they do not impose on other's lives.


    Nathan Lewellyn
    PSCI 100.04

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  39. I used to want to vote. Before I turned 18, I was all about the idea of being able to "contribute to society" by doing my "duty" as a citizen of the United States. Not long before the Obama election, I made the decision not to vote. At the time it wasn't because I knew my vote didn't really count for anything, it was just because I wasn't very informed on either candidate. I didn't really like either side really. Now that I fully understand that I don't have the right to help choose the next president by casting my vote, I have a new found reason for not voting. If it is completely up to the electoral college to decide then I would really rather not be a part of the lie that our votes actually count for something. I personally think that people should stop voting altogether. Think about what kind of statement that could make.

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  40. I've always felt the need to vote because I was always told the standard speech we're all given in public school (our duty as American citizens, show you care about what is happening, be involved with the country, etc). True, the existence of the electoral college pretty much renders our votes useless, but I will still continue to vote for presidential elections. I did not realize that our votes for county-wide and state-wide elections actually mattered much more so than presidential elections, so I will try my best to be more informed and vote in those elections in an educated way, seeing as these are the people who directly influence our personal lives.

    PSCI 100:05

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  41. I believe that voting for a president is pointless. I say this because what do our votes count? Until recently when I found out that at the end of the day the Electoral College makes the final decision who gets elected president which makes my opinion of not voting that much stronger. I think especially in my generation it's almost pointless to do because most people are not actively involved in elections and vote just to that they did it. During last years elections my friend went in stood in line to vote for hours. When she got back I asked her who she voted for and why and she responded, "I voted for Obama and I don't really know why." So this is why I believe voting for a president is pointless.

    Erin Phelan
    PSCI 100 MWF 9:10-10

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  42. I never have voted for the president election because the election was before my 18th birthday but I do think it is pointless to vote because the electoral college basically makes the decision of who becomes our president. But its still great to vote to see how our society feels about each candidate and to see which candidate they would want to see become our president.
    -PSCI 10:10-11
    Lavonte Hights

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    1. If you don't vote all together, than you really have no say in the people that are put into place to vote for the president. Your voice does end up being heard, but it has to go through multiple strands of red tape to be put into action.

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  43. The thought that it is pointless to vote for the president of the United States may be valid, but to still vote for them and not vote in local elections is childish. Let me explain; a lot of the arguments made in the comments suggest that big media representation is what matters most in their determining of politics. We (myself included) do not know our local politicians because, even though they are down the street bowling or at town hall all day or advertising in the county newspaper, they still feel far away from us. The only way to really reach us and spike our interest is through corporate, impersonal advertising designed to reach the broadest audience possible. I don't like the chance that this is true. I suppose it's a throwback to the discussion how much we rely on the federal government so much and how we as a nation care about it far more than the state, county, or even city elections. That's just crazy to me, and I'm going to start following and participating in local politics from here on out.
    Emily Cooper
    PSCI 100 9:10-10am

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  44. I personally think that they should have two elections for the every four years of the presidential election. One election specifically for the President of the US and then one for the town, city, and federal levels. We vote for all of the candidates for all offices on the same day. If our vote doesn't even count, then we the people should be allowed to vote for our local and state candidates and not the president without selecting undecided". We may be decided, but if it doesn't matter why do it?
    Most of society believe in what we are told, and thank to MTV and their Rock the Vote campaign, we all thought that our vote counted and mattered when making that important decision of selecting our President of the United States. We all have the illusion that "your vote counts", and it is completely believed in until the situation like election between Bush and Gore occur and then our illusion is shattered. And we are brought into the reality of how our nation has been operated for the past 238 years, its not our direct choice, but the choice of the other high powered people we voted for and put into office.


    Andrea Rinaldi
    PSCI 100 9:10-10am

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