Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Why Vote for the US President?




Why should you vote for the President of the United States of America?



Most of you will never set foot into a city or county council meeting. In these forums, you generally have face to face access to policymakers that you directly elect. These men and women have a significant impact on essential aspects of your everyday life, particularly in areas like school funding, access to fire and rescue service, water and sewage policies, zoning, annexation, local tax rates, and so on. Yet, we hardly ever never rock the county or town council vote – indeed, in most cases, I bet county council debates hardly make it onto the radar compared to the hoopla surrounding the quadrennial presidential elections in the US.



The important point about these local elections cannot be stressed enough: i). You can go meet these policymakers and talk with them about issues of concern to you and your community and possibly persuade them on some matter; ii). They are directly elected by your vote and are therefore accountable to you and the coalition of voters of which you are a part.

In terms of the US president, however, the story is very different. The chances that you will ever meet the next US president (or any US president ever, for that matter) are slim to none – especially now with the intensified security practices surrounding the President following the events on 11 September 2001. Even when the fear of communist sabotage and the threat of Soviet nuclear weapons (which still exist, by the way) stalked Americans’ imagination during the Cold War, citizens were able to arrive early in the morning, wait in line outside the White House gate, and get an escorted tour of the public areas on most any day of the week. That type of open and symbolically more accessible attitude has evaporated over the past decade in regards to the President and the White House. In its place is an increasingly complicated, surveillance-intensive, and selective bureaucratic process that distances the office and the office holder from those that vote.

Even less likely are we, as average citizens living in Shepherdstown, WV, or any particular town across America, able to meet and meaningfully discuss, much less influence, the president on any issue of concern to you or your community.

On top of that, your vote, which millions of American citizens will cast in November, does not elect the president of the United States. To the surprise of many, no doubt, the US Constitution establishes an Electoral College [read here and here] with this authority. Who is the Electoral College? Robert Dahl, the distinguished professor of comparative democracy at Yale University, says that members of the Electoral College usually consist of a relatively unknown and partisan group of party loyalists.



The Electoral College, a fundamentally non-democratic and elitist feature of the US Constitution that insulates the president from the popular will, has created a dilemma for American politics that has played out on four different occasions in our history. Most recently, we saw the consequences of this Constitutional dilemma in the 2000 US election. In that instance, George W. Bush was elected to the highest office in the land because he won a majority of Electoral College votes; Al Gore won the majority of votes from American citizens, but lost the election. All in all, Dahl says that one out of every three US presidents has won with only a minority of voters’ support.

I want to bring the dilemma of our democracy home to you by asking you to reflect on your behavior.

Why should you vote for the American president? Or, if you think that you shouldn't vote for the US President, why shouldn't you vote? And, perhaps more importantly, why don’t you vote for the city and county council members? Do you know your council members?

44 comments:

  1. I am a registered voter, but I have chosen not to vote this year. I am not exercising my right, when I do not lean towards either candidates values. Maybe if their morals interested me, I would consider it. Also, since the electoral college determines the president, I feel like its a waste of my time. Its not my choice. Yes my voice can be heard, but does it make the final decision? Therefore, best of luck to whomever wins. Its not the president that needs a change, its the Congress and Supreme Court who need adjustments. For city and council members, I don't really get involved too much to hear about either of them personally to debate on any of them.

    Carissa Pearrell
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    1. I defiantly agree with this post because i really think it would be stupid for someone to go out and express their vote if they really don;t believe in anything that either of the candidates have to offer. It would be a waste of time for that person, especially when that person would have to wait in really long lines with crazy people.

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    2. I am registered to vote but did not vote this year. If someone does not like the candidates then why would you vote for someone you do not like. One vote for one person is not going to change anything. Why go through the hassle of trying to vote if you do not want to. City and council embers are not something I'm too interested in so I do not get involved.

      Anthony Varbero
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  2. Honestly, the president isn't that important when it comes to things like the economy. I vote for the president like I vote for a governor. I want a moderate politician who will try to compromise with the other party but still leans a little left of center. On the other hand, I want the most liberal candidates for the house and senate. The reason that I think that it is important to vote for the president is that the electoral college generally votes the same way as their state. Where problems come in are when Candidate A wins four states by two or three percent of voters, and Candidate B wins two states in a landslide. Candidate A would have more electoral votes, but might not have as many popular votes. Still, you very rarely, if ever, have a situation where a state goes to one candidate and the states representatives at the electoral college vote against that guy. Therefore the electoral college does generally follow the popular vote, except at a state level, not a national one. And with more than 300 million people in the US, it really is improbable that any normal citizen would have the chance to discuss what he thinks to the president. It is unfortunate, but just true. That is why people look for the candidate that they agree with the most and vote for them.

    Johnathan Ford
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  3. I don’t really believe in voting for president since our vote doesn’t matter much, but,I do vote because so many people have worked so hard to make sure we have that right however I do completely believe in educating yourself on the issues so that if you are asked why you aren’t voting you can at least give a full explanation of why or why not and information about both parties candidates because it is so very important to see both sides of each election and what they “supposedly” plan to do with our country. I think that is crucial that we vote for our council members although I’ll be honest before this class I didn’t really realize who our council members were and what they did for us what so ever but, none the less things like local tax rates and fire , rescue services affect us greatly so it’s important that we chose someone capable of making those decisions.

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  4. I believe that people should vote, but they need to know what the candidates stand for. Even though our individual vote may not decide who is president, it shows that we are interested in what happens to our country. i chose to not vote yesterday, but that was because I did not want to deal with an absentee ballot. If I was at home, I would have gone to the booth to vote. When watching the results of the voting last night, I saw how one vote helped the candidate win the state, especially in a state like Virginia that was very close to call. Although people complain about the Electoral College, it does what it believes is best for the country, whether the popular vote agrees with their decision or not. Each person should go out and voice their opinion, otherwise they cannot complain about the current president for not doing what they want.
    Sarah Myers
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  5. I don't really feel that the vote for president is all that important as we do not directly impact that decision. However, our vote for city and county council members does, and unfortunately most of youth today isn't aware of that. I personally am not even familiar with my city and county council members, though I know that I should be, because those are the people who can really take into consideration the voices of the people as they are on closer terms in a sense of community.

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    1. I actually live in the same town as Ashley does and I agree with her when she said that she doesn't know many of hercity and council members. I've lived there for 15 years and I don't know many of them

      Ashlea McKenzie
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  6. I personally do not think I should vote. I do not keep updated or involved in politics. I try to as much as possible, it just doesn’t happen. Another reason, I am not even registered to vote. I would like to be, but I still probably wouldn’t vote. My interests and ideologies are so unbalanced I wouldn’t be able to make a decision on who should be president. In some cases, I am liberal and other cases, conservative. Voting is also pointless and a waste of time. Yes, your voice is heard, but no your vote does not take part in the final decision of election. The president is more of a persuader than an actual decision maker of this country. Congress and the Supreme Court need adjustments, if anything. Like for presidential elections, I do not keep up with city or county council members. I know most of the council members, but I wouldn’t want to vote for one and not the other. They are very respectable people and I think they are fine choices for this county.

    Lauren Williams
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  7. I think voting for the president is a right that the people have and that is fought for. It lets me put out my voice and helps me feel good about what i did. Now i know the that the vote for the President isnt up to the people that but being able to show that i did say what i believe in. The council in my town i am not realy sure of. I have no idea who they are and i dont really care. I dont vote for them because I dont see why I should. I live in a small town and there are federal laws that the town council has to abide by so i am not worried what could happen to my town. There have been alot of changes but nothing that has damaged the town or made me want to move away. The President i feel more strongly about voting for than my city council.

    -Colin Barry
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  8. I don't understand why we should vote for the president if our votes don't even count. I understand voting for the city and county council members because they are from our towns and like you said, we could actually meet them and possibly persuade them to do things. Whereas the president I will never meet and have a say in anything he does.

    Ashlea McKenzie
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  9. Carlos Canino PSCI 100.02November 8, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    I believe Americans should vote for the President, even though the direct vote doesn't count toward the presidency it does illuminate public opinion and choice. In most cases in order to change something there has to be controversy or something to be stirred. Example in 2000 election. Even though Bush still became president it doesnt mean that change cant still happen. The 2000 election results drew attention to a system that most people either didnt know or paid attention to. Possibly in the results of 2000 were to occur again maybe the system could be overhauled, but that only could happen if people vote and not sit at home and complain.

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  10. To be completely honest i didn't go out and vote this year. This is because i don't feel as if either of the candidates can represent what i believe in. I feel like if there was a candidate that focused on my beliefs i may have made an effort to go out and express my vote. After this class i never realized that the electoral college were the ones that determined the vote. I never knew that our vote wasn't the vote that determined the president. If i did go out and vote i feel like that would have made me a hypocrite. Going out and voting basically says that you believe what this candidate has to offer and you believe that they have what it takes to be president. Why would i have gone out and voted if neither of the candidates has what it takes to represent my beliefs and morals? I do not know the council members of my city and i defiantly should know who they are. Our vote for them impacts us the most because our vote counts for them and it determines what happens in our community.

    mwf 910-10

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  11. I believe people should do what they feel is right to them when it comes to voting for the President of the United States. I personally went out and voted this year because it was the first year I was actually able to. But I do agree that the popular vote does not choose the President but in fact the electoral college. I also have neve been to a council meeting nor do I know who is on the council in my local town. I have never heard when they are holding meetings so there for I have not attended any. If I knew when the meetings were being held I would potentially go to a few to see what is going on in my town and if I agree or disagree with what my local council members are stating.

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  12. I think that the write to vote is just a very clever ploy to get us to think that our opinions matter at all. All these politicians run based on "the will of the people" doing what people want and need. Unfortunately all of these candidates are actually only doing what half or slightly half of the country wants. No matter what, a large portion (nearly half, every time) of the country is thrown to the side to allow the new leader to stomp across the country for his agenda.
    I understand that the founders of this nation fought for independence and all of our rights. But what caused the revolution? Taxation without representation. The stamp act, tea act, sugar act, ect. caused the American people to stand up and fight for freedom. Why arent we fighting now? There are taxes for everything. Obamacare levies a tax if you dont buy health insurance. Yet every time an election comes up we rise up and vote for another guy (or gal) who is just going to continue to levy taxes without, in my opinion at least, real representation. I have never seen a single candidate that can truly represent me. They arent like me, they dont live like me, and im just tired of all of it.

    I dont see my city council because i hate the city in which i live. I will be leaving as soon as possible.

    Michael Ryan Rodgers
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  13. Kelli Crider PSCI 100.02November 9, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    I personally think that as Americans, if we have any interest in our country, we should go vote. I voted this year mostly because like a lot of other people, it was the first time I could. While West Virginia has only a few electoral points,and almost always sways toward the republican candidate, I still went out and voted. I do think it is rather frustrating that the popular vote is not what determines the presidents, but now I kind of see why. So many people I talked to were very ignorant about why they were voting. Half of my friends had reasons for not voting for a specific candidate that were not even true facts about them. I think the electoral college was put into place because some people just do not vote for the right reasons or even know what they are voting for. Also, I do vote for my council members because I can.

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  14. This time i did not vote for president. Why should i, our vote really doesn't matter. At least thats how i feel. That wasn't the only reason i didn't vote i felt that no matter which canadidate won our economy would go farther downhill then it has. Our votes don't chose the president the electorial votes do. Even though i did not vote for president i did vote for delegate because i know him and our votes do pick that. I think we should vote for the people running in our local election. But other then that why waste our time voting for president, unless they removed the electorial votes and our vote actually did matter.

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  15. I understand that our vote does not directly count towards who wins the presidency, but that does not mean that we shouldn’t vote. Our vote counts at the state level because the majority of the state votes determine where our electoral votes go, which then determines who is elected president. However, a more fair approach would be that each state’s electoral votes could be split based on the percent of popular vote. I also believe that some individuals that are voting just to vote and do not even know who or what they are voting for should not vote. We all have our own opinions and are entitled to those opinions, and we should therefore express them by voting. I did vote in the presidential election, and I also voted for my city and county council members. I do know and keep up with all the city and county council members because after all their decisions do directly effect me and where I live. I strongly believe that my vote does count toward each election and will therefore continue to vote for who I believe is the better candidate.
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  16. Brian Fletcher MWF 9:10-10November 11, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Our votes don't really count so why does everyone feel the need to go out and "rock the vote"? Im from Virginia and we have the highest number of electoral college voters so the entire state can vote for one candidate and then have it completely overturned by the electoral college. Its not domacracy at all, youre taking away my right to vote for the person that i want to represent me as an American citizen. Electoral colleges should be outlawed and the American people should have the direct vote to who ever is in office.

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  17. Savannah Snyder PSCI 100.02November 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    I am a register voter, but this year I did not vote. I did not like either of the candidates really and I felt as though my vote would be completely uneducated. I feel as though the electoral college should not be in effect because what is the point of anyone voting anyway if they have the final decision in the long run. I believe that the people should be the ones choosing the president and not just a select few people.

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  18. Phillip Rhoden MWF 9:10 -10November 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    Honestly i do not think it makes a difference if the people vote or not because our vote is not what decides who will be president or not, the electoral college decides that. i think the government lets the people vote for entertainment so that the election can be this "Big" event. To me it makes more sense to vote for your city council because your vote actually counts.

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  19. I never really thought my vote counted for the presidents election anyways. WWhen we were in class and you explained that it truly doesnt, and that bush actually lost in vote count, it pretty much sealed that deal up with me i will never waste my time on that. As far as the city council i never really thought about voting mostly because of time and not knowing who or what there goals or plans were. I definitely think it makes more sense to vote for these people for the simple fact that your vote could make the difference. Why have i not taken the time to vote for city council? I dont really know maybe I just havent felt like it really effects me yet because im not paying bills yet but i dont know. T-TH 12:25-1:40 100:03 David Gladden

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  20. I do no think you should vote for the president. The electoral college decides the president, not the people. So I think that "excercising your right to vote" for the president is just a slogan, and nothing else. I do vote for my city council members, however I do not know who they are or what they do while on the council, but since my vote can directly elect them, I feel that you should vote on a local level. But also on a State level because your vote also directly elects the senators and delegates.


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  21. "Voting" for the president is pointless. I find it amazing and frankly disappointing in the amount of people who do not realize that popular vote will never matter in the presidential election. Until there is an amendement to the constitution, I do not vote solely for the reason that it does not actually affect the results of the election. I could keep ranting but I hope my point is made.
    As far as local elections go...I think they're very important to the well-informed individual. Local elections are about as close to the original direct democracy developed in Greece. Peoples' voices can actually be heard, and problems effecting you and I resolved. As said, local election (city council) are only good to the well-informed. I am not one of those individuals, yet. The affairs of my town really are not molding my life ,so I do not worry about it.

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  22. To me, the President has just as much control over the US as the Queen of England does of the UK. Congress seems to be the one running the country, therefore I think it's important to vote for senators and representatives. I personally don't vote because I feel like I'm ignorant of politics and don't have the knowledge to vote accurately for what I believe in. At this point in my life, most of the policies that are being enforced in my county do not apply to me or interfere with my life. I'm also not strongly opinionated about many topics.
    Paige Albert
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  23. I believe voting for the American president is very important. Every one should have the option to vote and reflect their opinion using that vote. As much as I want to think my vote matters I know it doesn't carry as much weight. I did vote for my city and county council members. If some one wants to see changes I believe it starts with smaller voting like city and county.

    Mayor

    George Karos

    City Council

    Gregg Wachtel - Councilmember-At-Large
    Donald "Don" Anderson - Councilmember-At-Large
    Dennis J. Etherington - Councilmember Ward 1
    Kevin Knowles - Councilmember Ward 2
    Max Parkinson - Councilmember Ward 3
    Roger Lewis - Councilmember Ward 4
    Jason W. Baker - Councilmember Ward 5

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  24. Voting for the president is important. The one thing that can cause complications is when people dont know why they are voting. Yes it is a right as a citizen to vote but when people vote when not knowing why they are voting, it seems to make the vote pointless in some account. One reason why some people may not vote for city council is because they dont know whom they are. It isnt as public as when the president runs, and personally i dont know who the council is for our county.

    Jordan Rodriguez
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  25. I personally am not a registered voter and I really have no interest in voting because I believe it is pretty much pointless since our vote does not even pick who gets to be president. I have never gotten involved with local county city officials because I just don't have the interest in it.

    Amber McFadden
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  26. First, I am not yet old enough to vote, but I am not certain whether that is fortunate or unfortunate. I understand that one particular vote will not elect our president, however I would like to believe counts at the state level, where the number of votes in the electoral college is taken. Being that I am not directly involved, I would not know if the vote is just cast away after submitted, or actually consider as one of many in the composition of all citizen votes. In 2016, I do plan on voting, just as a personal milestone.

    C.J. Davis
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  27. I believe that voting for the US president is important. I didn't exercise my rights this year for the simple fact that I couldn't pick either one of the candidates. I wasn't fond of either of them. I also didn't vote for my city or county council members although I find that extremely important as well, for it involves things that are much more closely related to you.

    Kellyn Butler
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    1. I agree with Kellyn here. I think that voting for the US President is important, however I did not vote either. I felt that I didn't know enough about either candidate to make a meaningful vote that would elect the president. People should vote when they have been well informed of current issues and policies and where candidates stand. Voting for city/county council members is also important because they deal with matters that relate to you personally in your area.

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  28. I think that voting is very important on a local level and did vote. I also voted for the president, though I do know that our vote doesn't actually elect the president I would like to think that the electoral college may try and represent the people's will in most cases. I do not know the city counsel or mayor here in Shepherdstown but I did in the town I lived in before I moved here, or at least had met and talked with many of them. Being involved in your community level politics is very important as a citizen in your community.
    Melissa Stover

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  29. Exercising the right to vote depends on the person...I don't think that a person should be told that they have to pick one out of the two candidates running for president because that is there only option...If a person does not feel comfortable voting, then it is best that they stay away from the polls...It is always good to have complete knowledge of something before doing it...I am a registered voter and I do exercise my right to vote, but that is my choice...I am well versed on many issues and I vote for the candidate who I feel will make a strive to change those issues for the better...I think that voters do not vote for the city and county council members because they just do not have any knowledge of them...Even I did not know the effect of what voting the right city or county council memeber could have for my community...We here about the president all day, but we rarely hear about what city or county council member is running for office and why...

    Cher'ie L. Dixon
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  30. I personally have always had conflicting feelings about voting. I have always been more of a liberal-minded person, but I have never really cared too much about voting. I feel a sense of guilt over not really caring whether or not I vote. I have always been told that I should vote and I feel this nagging sense of duty at a citizen of the United States to exercise my right to make a choice that some people in other parts of the world do not have. I didn't vote in this election because I didn't register in time. I have never voted in any election, much less in a city or county election.

    Veronica J. Victor, 100.03, TR

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  31. I think anyone who wants to vote should be able to, but I personally decided not to take part in this years election because I didn't particularly like the candidates as my only options. From my perspective, voting should not be something to pressure someone into doing, which is what I saw happen during this election. If I don't like my options, why is it my responsibility to election a leader whom I disagree with? I see it all as a game that everyone plays and I'm not against voting, but I think those who do vote should do so because they see good things coming out of the candidates decisions, not because it's that time again to follow the actions of those around them.

    Sam Bennett PSCI 100.02

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  32. Voting is an important job for the citizens to do. My personal opinion is that every American should vote because not only is it our patriotic duty to do so but it is also the person who will be representing our country. If one does not vote they should not have an opinion on who is in office and how the election turns out. I feel as though my vote doesn't matter therefore I don't vote. I don't waste my time on the campaigns either, that is just a waste of money. As far as the city or county elections go I don't pay them any mind either, they don't seem important to me and alot of people don't participate.
    Summer Fitzwater
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  33. I do not not. I am well aware of how little my vote means. I do not agree with the voting system when it comes to the presidential election. I should however vote for city councils and such but this year I did not. My biggest pet peeve is people lecturing about how important it is to vote for the president, but reality it doesn't matter.
    Jena Wright
    PSCI 100.3

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    1. I do not vote either and I agree with you on how we should vote for city councils and our local elections.
      McKena Munson
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  34. I feel you should vote for the President to show support for the belief/moral system that best applies to you. Although the popular vote does not determine the final results as much as the electoral votes, I believe exercising your right is important because it represents how society feels rather than just the elite. Moreover, the media influences many people's vote, due to headlines and statements towards each candidate during the time of election. Due to the little publication of council members, people do not know much about what is going on in that election or who is even running. This in fact limits who actually takes the time to vote. I think it is important to become aware and vote for these individuals because these are the people who make the decisions on the local issues.
    Anthonie Jefferson
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  35. I know and understand that I have the right to vote but I find it somewhat disturbing to know that my vote would not count. I also can understand why the popular vote doesn't determine who becomes our next president. A lot of people don't follow the elections and don't make the proper assumptions of who would be better in office, so they just pick one or decide their vote with whoever their friends or family vote for. Our vote should be put more towards our local elections because that is where our vote counts. Most people don't understand that their vote doesn't count for determining who the next president of the United States will be.
    McKena Munson
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  36. Voting could be compared to an analogous carrot on the stick, an ideology that through voting, we are involved with the our affairs of our country and all that idealistic thingamajiggies. But I won't lie that sometimes I feel like I don't matter, that what I do won't change anything, or that I haven't a clue at what's going on in the political offices of my own hometown. But if people are truly concerned that the system is corrupt or their voice towards the president is being silenced, why not go back to the good old days and start protesting or rioting, when history was made because of this. Before you establish a stronger foundation, you need to tear out the crumbling one first.

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      Brian Ardel
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  37. Everyone has the right to vote who is of age even though popular vote doesn't matter. I feel like the popular vote should have more say then what it does. This needs to be chnaged because alot of people do not know that their vote is wothless and a waste of time.

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  38. Brian Fletcher 9:10-10November 25, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    I know my vore doesnt count, the electoral college chooses who the president will be no matter what the people of this country say. I have chosen not to vote this election, not just because i didnt really like either of my choices, mainly romney, but also because my vote really doesnt stand for much other than a ritual that all Americans participate in each year thinking that they have a voice. All electoral colleges should be outlawed, or atleast the members of it should be elected in by the people

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