Sunday, October 27, 2013

Why vote for the US President?





Why should you vote for the President of the United States of America?



Most of you will never set foot into a city or county council meeting. In these forums, you generally have face to face access to policymakers that you directly elect. These men and women have a significant impact on essential aspects of your everyday life, particularly in areas like school funding, access to fire and rescue service, water and sewage policies, zoning, annexation, local tax rates, and so on. Yet, we hardly ever never rock the county or town council vote – indeed, in most cases, I bet county council debates hardly make it onto the radar compared to the hoopla surrounding the quadrennial presidential elections in the US.



The important point about these local elections cannot be stressed enough: i). You can go meet these policymakers and talk with them about issues of concern to you and your community and possibly persuade them on some matter; ii). They are directly elected by your vote and are therefore accountable to you and the coalition of voters of which you are a part.

In terms of the US president, however, the story is very different. The chances that you will ever meet the next US president (or any US president ever, for that matter) are slim to none – especially now with the intensified security practices surrounding the President following the events on 11 September 2001. Even when the fear of communist sabotage and the threat of Soviet nuclear weapons (which still exist, by the way) stalked Americans’ imagination during the Cold War, citizens were able to arrive early in the morning, wait in line outside the White House gate, and get an escorted tour of the public areas on most any day of the week. That type of open and symbolically more accessible attitude has evaporated over the past decade in regards to the President and the White House. In its place is an increasingly complicated, surveillance-intensive, and selective bureaucratic process that distances the office and the office holder from those that vote.

Even less likely are we, as average citizens living in Shepherdstown, WV, or any particular town across America, able to meet and meaningfully discuss, much less influence, the president on any issue of concern to you or your community.

On top of that, your vote, which millions of American citizens will cast in November, does not elect the president of the United States. To the surprise of many, no doubt, the US Constitution establishes an Electoral College [read here and here] with this authority. Who is the Electoral College? Robert Dahl, the distinguished professor of comparative democracy at Yale University, says that members of the Electoral College usually consist of a relatively unknown and partisan group of party loyalists.



The Electoral College, a fundamentally non-democratic and elitist feature of the US Constitution that insulates the president from the popular will, has created a dilemma for American politics that has played out on four different occasions in our history. Most recently, we saw the consequences of this Constitutional dilemma in the 2000 US election. In that instance, George W. Bush was elected to the highest office in the land because he won a majority of Electoral College votes; Al Gore won the majority of votes from American citizens, but lost the election. All in all, Dahl says that one out of every three US presidents has won with only a minority of voters’ support.

I want to bring the dilemma of our democracy home to you by asking you to reflect on your behavior.

Why should you vote for the American president? Or, if you think that you shouldn't vote for the US President, why shouldn't you vote? And, perhaps more importantly, why don’t you vote for the city and county council members? Do you know your council members?

36 comments:

  1. No I actually do not know any of my council members, I feel the reason the voter turnout is the way it is becuase the citizen are to accepting of how things are and the way they operate and are probably too busy expressing their political issue in some other way. I feel the average citizen does not have the slightest clue as the what the lexicals of politics is about and therefore will choose to remain neutral to any situation utill it directly affects their lives. Most of the time people do not care enough about the county wide issues but issues that are more intense and align their voting on what it is their political leaders support. I feel that not voting is a political option because you are choosing to simply not support who the option give you.
    Ben Howar PSCI100:02

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    1. I agree with you, a lot of it comes down to how polarization is in the U.S. today. The world is viewed as dark and light, and based sometimes solely on one issue that you passionate about will sit you on either side. And it's shown by the media, public, elites that it is your duty to have the light win.
      -Jessica Fort PSCI:100 MWF 11:10-12

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  2. I as well do not know any of my council members, I want to turn my attention towards local meetings. All my life I have seen media and elite politicians warp people into believing that we as citizens vote for the president, and that the president holds powers to change everything (meaning: whats important to you as an individual), including things that affect everyday life.Like Ben says, it only becomes an issue when it affect you individually. I do not know any of my council members, and find that disappointing considering the effect they have on myself and family that surrounds me.
    -Jessica Fort PSCI100: MWF 11-:1012

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  3. In the past election, I was of age to vote, I had already registered to vote, and when the day came I never went to vote for the President. I had practice during my free time when I could've gone and voted, however I did not dwell on the fact that I didn't have time to vote. Growing up, I remember constantly hearing how important your vote was in the Presidential Election (especially as a female because the concept of women voting was comparatively new), and how it was our duty as a U.S citizen to vote and exercise our rights, but when it came time I was in no rush to do so. Another primary reason that I did not vote was because I had not educated myself nearly enough to vote for someone who was going to lead my country. Basically, I would've been voting just to say I did, and to be honest I feel that many people to that exact thing. Regardless, our single vote, and vote as a nation does not effect the ultimate decision of who will be the next President of the United States, because as stated above the electoral college ultimately decides who will be President, disregarding the votes of American citizens. I do not believe that people shouldn't not vote if it makes them feel that have some control, however I do feel that it's not necessary to vote for the President of the United States considering our vote does not ultimately decide the winner.

    Shannon Lyons
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  4. I do know our city council members but I have not voted for any of that because I wasn't of age. I would not vote for presidency in the next election though, mainly because it would not count. Everyone thinks that if they vote for the president, that they had a say in who would rule the country. They should be more worried about what actually effects them and their families, because they CAN have a say on that. They shouldn't be worried about voting for the president because that won't even play a role in who would win.

    Danielle Marple
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  5. I don't know my town council members, but I've never had a chance to vote for them. I think most people don't vote because their not informed on the candidates and don't want to put in the effort to find out what people stand for. I also think that people just like to complain about the problems they see in the area, if they voted things might get fixed and they wouldn't have anything to complain about. I think that the electoral college should be abolished because majority opinion should determine the president. The founding fathers feared for the education and the ability of the public to be responsible for the election of a national leader and today some people aren't getting the education they need to vote for the nations highest leaders. I think that you should still vote for the president because the discrepancies between majority and electoral votes could lead the nation to amend the electoral college.

    Kayla Piechowiak
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  6. I do not know my city council members because I don't even really know who they are. I couldn't pick them out of a line up let alone walking down the street. I don't vote for city or county elections because to me it is always the same people who run and people tend to vote for who is most popular so the results always end up the same. It is always hard to find information on the candidates as well as city elections are not focused as heavily as presidential elections. I do think it is important to vote for the president because it lets Americans feel like we have a say in something even if we really don't. However, if someone feels that they are not well informed to make a sound vote they should not have to, Also, if the voter does not like either of the candidates, they should not vote. The President should be someone that a voter would actually want in office to represent our country, not just someone who is viewed as the lesser of two evils.

    Haley Greene
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  7. I don't think there is any reason to participate in a presidential election, if I had to guess, the elections take place as part of the massive system that exists to keep the American public busy so they don't pay too much attention to what the government is doing. All the effort to get people to vote, rock the vote, vote or die, is there purely so that people will think what they did matters and be satisfied with it. 'Hey, you need to get involved with politics.' 'Well I voted, so there you go' but then that vote means absolutely nothing. I assume the results of the popular vote are a public figure to carry on with the unspoken lie that the vote actually matters, or because the people making a big deal about the vote don't realize it doesn't matter. Its hard to tell who is in on it.

    I don't know anything about local politics or local politicians. Even though it is probably a lot more democratic, I don't see any reason to interact with it. It doesn't matter any to me what laws or levies or whatever they pass, although I'm sure if they passed something that significantly affected me I would start to care, but I'm comfortable taking that chance. Maybe I will be very interested in it later in life and I can be the mayor of Hedgesville or something.

    Pete Sheehan, psci 100:003

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  8. I agree with everyone else that has commented so far.. I do not know any of our council members and I can almost guarantee that most people don't either. I am eligible to vote and I have yet to do so. A part of me doesn't have time to get into the politics and a part of me just doesn't care. I know I shouldn't think like this but in my mind as long as I'm happy and living, I don't care what the government is doing.

    Danielle McManus
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    1. I assume that is how most people feel, if it doesn't affect them personally they don't care, and sometimes it's to late.
      -Jessica Fort
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  9. Most people vote for the president because they feel like it is important and it will effect thier life in a major way if a certain person is the head of the white house. Most people don't vote or know their city council members because it is not as important and feel like the impact of having a city council will not touch their life.
    J.C. Mao-Alston PSCI 100:03

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  10. As most people they go and vote for the president because they feel it is the right thing to do and feel that it is important. Honestly since I have been able to vote I have not gone to vote once and it is now four years later. The reason for me not voting is because I feel as though I never know enough about who I would be voting for. An on top of it all I don't know who my city council are enough to vote for them. I don't plan on voting in the next election either after finding out that my vote would even matter anyways.

    Nicole Ruane
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  11. I think a lot of people vote for president because they need a sense or direction of leadership. Most people can't think for themselves so by having a president of appointed leader makes things simpillar for them. I believe by voting for the right President that it can better your country and your life in the long run.
    Dominique Dixon
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    1. I believe the reason why the majority of individuals vote because they do believe they are actually picking the president. Most people feel a sense of responsibility to vote. I don't vote, I never will, especially now with the knowledge that I have gained. I feel that it is pointless.
      Tyrek Collier
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  12. Voting for the president of the United States is seemed as a "duty" to many people. Many people feel pride in being able to vote for the U.S. president, but they also do not realize that their vote does not effect anyone. I do not see the need to vote for the president because it will not effect you or anyone around you. Half of the people who do vote for the president just do it to say they did because they know nothing about politics. I do not know any of my city or county council members. Voting for your local council members is more important than voting for the president. Many people do not vote for their local members because they hear about the president all the time in the media. They know nothing about their local issues and what is going on.

    Blake Johnson
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  13. Voting for the United States President, in my opinion, is something that has been ingrained into the minds of many and they feel it as their "duty" to cast their vote. Naturally, there are thousands upon thousands of people who are ignorant to the fact that something like an Electoral College exists and that is who elects the President, not them. Therefore they feel it is some God-given, patriotic American responsibility and honor to go and vote for a man (or woman) to whom they have no real personal connection with and probably never will. I do vote in the General Elections, it was ingrained into my head in 10th grade Civics class to do so, but I do know what that vote counts for. As for local elections regarding my hometown and my state, I vote in those as well. I only know maybe one or two of them on some personal level, but I at least am able to know that my vote counts for something and I suppose that's a little thing you can take some pride in. For the most part, I don't know that I even put that much thought into who becomes the President of the U.S. anymore. They're out of my reach. I do think that people should be more focused on who they're putting in chairs in their own districts and hometowns, it just seems like common sense to me.

    Casey DeHaven
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  14. I don't have any city or town council members because I live in an unincorporated town, the closest thing I have is a board of county commissioners. I vote for county commissioners in each election because if I'm going to the polling place anyways, I might as well vote for county commissioners. I don't ever go to county commissioner public meetings because, in all honesty, I'm just too damn lazy.

    Alex Smith
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  15. Normally, I would say that voting for the president is basically irrelevant, because as you said in class, if no citizen voted a president would still be elected. However, I do still feel that our votes matter for something. Although our votes do not directly elect the president, they basically tell the electoral college how to vote. The citizen's votes, I feel, are more a measurement of approval and taste, rather than something actually relevant. The electoral college would normally vote with the majority of citizen votes because they all want to keep their position in office.

    Local elections are totally different however. Local elections do not have that "protective" disconnect that exists nationally. Each vote counts as an actual vote for local elections.

    Brandon Smead
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  16. I say that we just don't vote at all. There is no point in waiting in a long line wasting your time for a process that your not even going to be involved in. People should be more involved in the local level, because the local level its easier to get involved and you can hold your leaders accountable. When I am back in DC I participate in the city elections because i know its important to elect good and qualified people on the DC council. I have not met anyone on the DC council but i have met Vincent Gray the mayor of DC in a college fair at the convention center.

    Carlos Amaya

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  17. I vote in presidential elections mainly because of the other people on the ballet. Like governors, senators, house reps, etc. I know my vote doesn't mean anything in the Presidential. I have known that as long as I have been a voter, if not even before that.
    I think you should because of the other people on the ballet. That's it.
    I haven't voted on city council members because I never know when those elections are.

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  18. Personally, I did not vote because I disagreed with who was running for president. Neither one of them represented me. If the election was more democratic and I knew my vote actually counted, I would have probably voted. But since our votes do not matter when it comes to electing the president, I think people are wasting their time, and need to support and vote for people who affect their community; like the city council.

    I like that I can easily walk in and talk to them face to face, and know that my vote put them in their office. But unfortunately, I did not vote for any of the city council members or even know who they are. One, because I was unaware of when their debates were held, and two, because I could not attend the debates because I am busy. If they were to televise or advertise their debates, like they do the presidential elections, then I and a lot more of the community would become more involved.

    Amanda Malave
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  19. I would like to begin by saying that your vote does matter. Having said this I will demonstrate several reasons a person should vote. First and foremost, just because your vote does not directly elect the president it does not mean that your vote does not matter. The electoral college could be considered a buffer if you will, between the people and their leaders. For fear that one person (like the ruler in N. Korea) could gain enough support by the people to completely overthrow or dismantle the government, the electoral college will listen to the people (through their votes and so on) and decide whom they believe will best represent the people. Secondly, without your vote your are essentially saying you do not care what happens to your country, your home. The president will be elected with or without your vote, so it's best you put your two sense in on the matter, to enusre that on some level your voice matters.
    Now as for local elections, I do believe these are important. The president of the United States can't do whats best for you and your small little town, he has an entire country to worry about. So if you want to change things in your town, go vote at local elections and voice your opinion at town meetings. Though local elections aren't televised and don't get nearly as enough attention as Presidential elections, they are just as important if not more important. A good way to get the attention of townspeople is to throw some kind of party or dinner because not everyone finds politics very interesting. Also you could charge (a small amount $15) for the dinner and donate the proceeds to something the town wants, this would be a great way to get people to come out.
    Now having given many reasons one should vote, I would like to give a big reason one shouldn't vote. If you do not keep up with politicians and know their agendas, it is unnecessary for you to vote.

    Alicia White
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  20. I do not vote, nor do i think you should vote. I keep up with current politics for the most part. However, during campaigns politicians agendas are a glorified load of shit. One can only get a general sense of a a politicians principles. When an elected official comes to office the people get put on the back burner to lobbyists and other influentials. I would rather not choose between two evils. The system will never be fair with the two parties in power or without more than two. Not to mention, without the people selecting the vote directly it is not democratic at all.

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  21. I can not actually think of any good reasons to vote for the president. Voting for president is basically meaningless and your vote does not even select the president. Voting for other offices, both local and nation-wide is very important, as these positions can actually be decided by your vote. Voting in local elections in especially important, as a single vote will carry immense power. I do not know my city council members, but now feel like I should make some effort to get to know them and their policies.
    Joseph Smith
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  22. It is my position that the electoral college is preferable; however, it has been hi-jacked, perverted, dualopolized by a two party system, and the winner take all system in 48 of the 50 states. Up until 1830, before the establishment of the general ticket, electors were like candidates, popularly elected by the states. You knew their name and knew where they lived. Their sole function was to cast a vote for president and vice president, then go home, then another election would be held for electors some time later. They once were accountable to you but today, that is not the case, as they are now appointed by political party. For example: West Virginia has a total of 5 electoral votes. 2 are represented as state wide, 3 by congressional district. So, for our district, there would have been an election for the elector. When the year for a presidential election occured, our popular vote for president in our district would give the elector as sense for whom to cast their vote for. This is not the case today. The Democrat and Republican party's each appoint 5 party faithfuls as electors. Democrats have no say on who the Republican electors are and vice versa, more importantly, if you are politically independent or have 3rd party leanings, you have no say with either.

    It would be my suggestion of going back to electing electors.


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  23. I have not voted in elections because I do not feel that I am educated enough to make that serious decision. I think that people should vote but they should seriously consider what they are doing when they cast that vote. I also think that the voting system should stop lying to us saying that our vote counts when it really doesn't. I do not know my city council members and I think many others don't either because they think that attacking the big man (government) is the only way to change. This has opened my eyes to do more research on a local level.
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  24. I personally do not know my town council members. I see them in the newspaper when that election time comes, but any other time, I don't see or hear anything about them. I guess that's my fault for not being active in things going on in my town, but I really don't know anyone who knows our council members other than maybe the mayor. But I do believe that these elections are much more important as they will directly affect my/your life rather than on the national level like the president. I did vote in this last presidential election only because I could, not because I legitimately believed my vote would matter for anything. Like others above have said, the population that does vote feels that it is their duty as an American citizen to vote in this election, even if their vote really doesn't count for anything.

    Megan Douglas
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  25. The reason on why we vote for the president is because we feel like we need a leader that will protect us and lead us into the right direction. People feel that if we don't vote for a president and we are able to do whatever we want and that would mean we wouldn't have a government. so its important that we vote for a president for leadership.

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  26. I did not vote in the last presidential election just like many others. I didnt vote for quite a few reasons. Why should I vote and waste my time if my vote has no effect on who is chosen? Also, I was not educated enough to feel as if I would be voting for the right person. Lastly, if i did vote, all I would be voting for is what my parents believed in, and who they wanted to win. So.. I didnt vote.
    I have no idea who is in my town council. Around election time I see signs along the road, but I never have any idea who the people are, and have never been told to care.

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  27. Our votes do not really matter, but I still vote. I understand that the public vote does not elect the president, but at least we have a say. I would be better if everyone voted for their town officials rather than the president. In local elections, our vote actually matters. Instead of everyone focusing on the presidential election, everyone should focus on local elections.

    Brenna Rose
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  28. I do not know ant city council members or vote for the city council. Most people do not vote for city council yet vote for the president because they feel by voting for him their vote means more. In actuality voting for city council means much more to the polls and what you want done then voting for the president so i don't see why more people vote for that than the president.

    Mike Reed

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  29. I agree with the previous post. Most people don't even know who is on their own city council, which effects them most directly, but they panic over voting for the president which doesn't even matter. I think that people should not vote for the president.

    Ryan Miller
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  30. I am very active with knowing who my city council members are, I hand out literature for them, help run the polls when needed. I think that the city council is very important because the do vote on things that directly effect my city. What is built where, what they want to add and take away from my direct community hits home a lot closer than the president in my eyes. Saying that, I did vote in the last presidential race. Although the electoral colleges may be the ones who actually vote and who's votes matter the most, mine still counts towards where the electoral college leans towards.

    Zoe Robinson

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  31. People vote to give them a sense of worthiness and democracy. I did not participate in the previous elections, so therefore I didn't have the opportunity to elect city council members as well. I don't know when I'll register to vote because I don't want to vote and it be for no reason considering our votes towards president don't even matter. I do not know anyone on the city council, but I'd like to look more into it since our votes actually count towards them.
    Kelsey Phelan
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    1. I agree that people vote to give themselves a sort of self worth kind of facade, I do that for sure. I think that city council and other lower positions of the president are the most important to vote for. I think it is dumb to even vote for the president though because it really doesn't matter and it just feels like a waste of time. But if our vote can make a difference on the lower end of the deal such as city council, mayor etc then I say go for it.

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  32. Honestly, I find the electoral college set up to be rather frustrating. It makes voting for the president unimportant, yet so many people get fired up over voting and look down upon those of us that don't vote. On the other hand, I am equally guilty of not paying attention to local politics or voting in those elections which are much more democratic. I'd like to think that I will pay more attention to local politics when I am living in one place steadily rather than bouncing between home and school.

    Katelyn Amspacher
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