Sunday, February 27, 2011

Why should you vote for the President of the United States of America?

Why should you vote for the President of the United States of America?

Most of you will never set foot into a city or county council meeting. In these forums, you generally have face to face access to policymakers that you directly elect. These men and women have a significant impact on essential aspects of your everyday life, particularly in areas like school funding, access to fire and rescue service, water and sewage policies, zoning, annexation, local tax rates, and so on. Yet, we hardly ever never rock the county or town council vote – indeed, in most cases, I bet county council debates hardly make it onto the radar compared to the hoopla surrounding the quadrennial presidential elections in the US.

The important point about these local elections cannot be stressed enough: i). You can go meet these policymakers and talk with them about issues of concern to you and your community and possibly persuade them on some matter; ii). They are directly elected by your vote and are therefore accountable to you and the coalition of voters of which you are a part.

In terms of the US president, however, the story is very different. The chances that you will ever meet the next US president (or any US president ever, for that matter) are slim to none – especially now with the intensified security practices surrounding the President following the events on 11 September 2001. Even when the fear of communist sabotage and the threat of Soviet nuclear weapons (which still exist, by the way) stalked Americans’ imagination during the Cold War, citizens were able to arrive early in the morning, wait in line outside the White House gate, and get an escorted tour of the public areas on most any day of the week. That type of open and symbolically more accessible attitude has evaporated over the past decade in regards to the President and the White House. In its place is an increasingly complicated, surveillance-intensive, and selective bureaucratic process that distances the office and the office holder from those that vote.

Even less likely are we, as average citizens living in Shepherdstown, WV, or any particular town across America, able to meet and meaningfully discuss, much less influence, the president on any issue of concern to you or your community.

On top of that, your vote, which millions of American citizens will cast in November, does not elect the president of the United States. To the surprise of many, no doubt, the US Constitution establishes an Electoral College [read here and here] with this authority. Who is the Electoral College? Robert Dahl, the distinguished professor of comparative democracy at Yale University, says that members of the Electoral College usually consist of a relatively unknown and partisan group of party loyalists.

The Electoral College, a fundamentally non-democratic and elitist feature of the US Constitution that insulates the president from the popular will, has created a dilemma for American politics that has played out on four different occasions in our history. Most recently, we saw the consequences of this Constitutional dilemma in the 2000 US election. In that instance, George W. Bush was elected to the highest office in the land because he won a majority of Electoral College votes; Al Gore won the majority of votes from American citizens, but lost the election. All in all, Dahl says that one out of every three US presidents has won with only a minority of voters’ support.

I want to bring the dilemma of our democracy home to you by asking you to reflect on your behavior.

Why do you vote for the American president? Or, if you don't vote for the US President, why don't you vote? And, perhaps more importantly, why don’t you vote for the city and county council members? Do you know your council members? Why aren’t you engaging in some meaningful and consequential political deliberation in a public arena in which you can, actually, impact the policies that impact you?

91 comments:

  1. Most of the people, who vote to elect a new president for a country in this case in the U.S, have in their minds that they are indeed voting for a person who understand the changes that the country needs. For instance, a prospective president as we know should have a presidential campaign, in which they will provide examples of what they are trying to accomplish while at the white house. Most of these things are probably recommended to say by wealthy families who are supporting the new perspective president throughout their journey. As a journalist, I have known this for the past 4 years, and that might be one of the reasons why I don’t vote. I don’t vote not because I feel like I’m wasting my time thinking I’m making the right decision electing a candidate to govern our country properly, but I also don’t vote because I know my vote won’t be counted. Therefore, I’m not inviting society to make them think the same way I do think. Every person is free to make their own decision and if they think that by expressing their thoughts through a vote is the right thing to do, then they are more than welcome to do so.

    Jorge Alvarez
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  2. In voting for the president, i did not last term because i was four months too young. when it comes to the presidency i will be hesitant to vote because i dont believe that it is completely fair. as for county seats and city, i have voted in two different elections, my father is on shepherdstown council, and i, having lived in jefferson county for years, am interested and personally know many county and city political holders, i believe that voting for the city even is the most important, i personally know shepherdstown mayor, and am comfortable talking to him on issues in town. I feel as though our representation is way better at the smaller level.
    Colin Springer 100.03

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  3. I know that people say that voting is extremly important and that, that one vote can be the change for everything. I havn't voted and honestly don't plan to any time soon. Politics just seems like people trying to gain power. I know in a sense that is what it is,but I havn't seen any good people in office in my life time. All I have seen is the economic struggles and the war over in Iran and those countries. I don't know who are council members are either. I do realize that everything dealing with politics has a big role in my life because there is no escaping it, but I prefer not to be one who decides to put someone in office based on their word.
    Katelyn Sine
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  4. I understand how important voting is suppose to be for most. However it is not to me. Popular votes do not win! I am an independent voter. I am neither democrat or republican. I did this because their are times where the wrong person on a particular party is not the right man for the job. I have not voted for the past two years. I feel that these candidates we are voting for will say anything to catch our votes but unfortunately when they get in office what we need as a country is not the most important item. I feel the majority of the items passed in congress are focused on the upper class. This makes decisions of voting really hard. I do not want to vote because it is expected, I want to vote because it makes a difference.

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  5. Personally, the reason I didn't vote last time (in my city council elections) was because I didn't agree with either or know enough about them to make an informed decision either way. However, I think it's extremely important to vote all the time because when you research the candidates and make informed, educated decisions, you're helping make a difference, whether you feel like it or not. Also, more people in our age range (late teens/early 20s) should really talk with our representatives to express the opinion of the younger generation.
    Jessica Meyers 100.05

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  6. I dont vote for the US president because I dont see the point in voting if my vote does not directly influence the outcome of who will be elected. I also do not inform myself enough on the issues that each each candidate stands for so therefore I could not make an intelligent decision. I do not vote for city council members because I have never been informed of the importance it could have on my everyday life. I think I would begin to vote in these elections if i knew more information about them and if it had a bigger impact on my life at the moment.

    Kassi Gardner 100.05

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  7. I don't vote because I'm honestly not that interested in the government and politics. All politicians are liars so there's no need for me to vote for one over an other. My parents don't vote and not many people in my extended family do, it's not something we feel we should really waste our time doing. Just our opinion though. I do believe if our vote actually counted and made an influence on the final outcome, I would be more likely to vote.

    Theoni Kontos
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  8. So far, every election I’ve seen looks like a slander-feast (if that’s a word) with every candidate pointing out every flaw, true or not, about the others running against them. Many of their statements are farfetched and the claims they make about what they will do in office seem highly embellished. Altogether it seems they feed on the ignorance of the populace because anyone with a little sense would see through their statements. It makes the whole thing seem trivial and it makes me feel that I am voting for the least dangerous clown.

    David Hickerson 100.4

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  9. I have not voted for president for now because I was too young, but I won't be voting for it in the future because i found out about the electoral college making the decision a couple years ago, and the election lost it's sparkly attraction. Not to mention I don't keep up with where politicians stand on topics or what they plan to change, I didn't really care. I have no good excuse for not voting for city and county council members. I do not know any of my council members. I have never really been interested in politics, it has always seemed like a dirty business and I want to keep my conscious clean. Not to mention I don't feel I know enough on any political issue to be debating it.

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  10. Jessica Hall, PSCI 100.04 for comment above

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  11. I agree with Jessica Meyers. During the last election i did not participate because I was not knowledgeable enough to do so, and before that I was too young. This class is helping me realize that we need to participate more in the elections and be more involved and knowledgeable for who is running. It is important for us to do so because we will have to live with the consequences of their actions just as much as they do.
    One thing I do not understand is why we do not have the "popular" vote win for the presidential election. I think that they should change to to be so.

    Yasmin Modica
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  12. I have voted in the presidential elections for the last 20 years or so. Although I know my vote is not counted individually, I like to be part of the system. I would like to see the electoral system changed, but in the meantime, I feel it is important to participate in the system. What if NOBODY went to vote at all? Could that apathy be interpreted as a sign that we don't care and the "powers that be" would gain more power?

    I voted in all the local elections when I lived in New Hampshire for 8 years. I was very familiar with the people and the issues in our community and I really enjoyed being a part of the election process there. The local elementary and middle schools would also set up booths with voting ballots that were pertinent to their schools (things like what kind of field day to have, etc.), and the kids voted at the same time as their parents. It helped them to be aware of the voting process and understanding politics on a very small scale.

    Dee Pierce
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  13. It seems as if people believe that the President of the United States will have more of an impact on their lives because he is the leader of our country. Media sources, such as news channels, newspapers, and magazines, constantly flaunt the presidential elections. To be honest, I don't even know when my town or county's last election was because it wasn't flaunted enough. For most people, the president is more of a superior figure than the city or council members, and people tend to believe that the president will help their situation more than anyone else will. I don't believe that this is true because as stated in the blog, the chances that anyone in my Political Science class or at Shepherd University in general will ever meet the president is slim to none. The president is dealing with thousands of situations in fifty states along with foreign affairs, yet the city and council members have a smaller amount of people and problems to deal with. By reading this blog, I definitely will vote in my next local election because I now see that they will probably help me solve the problems that surround me more than the president ever will.

    Kelly Sweeney
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  14. I haven't participated in voting yet because I was too young now I just haven't made it to register to vote. I really don't follow the people running because half the time I don't understand or I just get to confused. I would like to vote and have my voice heard, but like other students, the electoral college just ruins the fun in thinking we actually do have a say. We put in our opinion but they make the final say.
    Lacie Sirk PSCI 100.05

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  15. I didn't participate in the presidential elections because I was still 17. Even if i was 18 though, I wouldn't have voted anyway. I don't care too much for politics. It just confuses me and leaves me with a headache so I don't engage in any of it. If I were to ever vote, I would have to stay in the loop of everything that is happening and strongly feel that this next person deserves Presidency. I have no idea who the city or council members are. I know that the people in office do affect the city I live in, but up to this day, they haven't played a part in the way I live so I'm indifferent to who holds what position in office. I don't engage in the political system because of the simple fact that I have no say in anything. It doesn't matter what i want or believe in because ultimately it relies on who is in office. Even if you wrote to your representatives, they probably won't do too much with your opinion in mind. Like I stated before, I don't have that much care for politics as bad as that may sound. America has been managing the country, one less vote doesn't seem to strike me as very important.
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  16. I must say I am quite guilty for not voting at all. For the last presidential election, I was too young to vote. As for city council members I don't participate in voting for them either. I don't engage my time into politics as much as I should because they elected officials will be the one who sets the policies for my particular area. Unfortunately, I do not know my council members because I have not taken the time to become interested. I would participate in political debates in the arenas but my 20 credit hour school schedule and work schedule seem to be the center of my focus for now.
    Brandi Parsons
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  17. So far, during the major elections I was too young to vote. I do plan on participating in the elections though. The way I view it is you are voting to keep the worst of the two out of office. It takes time to form an opinion and even longer to gain a true one because it is a lot harder to find the real information as opposed to just any news article. I think that if more people tried than our country would be in a lot better shape. I feel that voting is an incredibly important thing. Being President has a lot of power and we need to be careful with who gains that power. A lot can happen in four years and people just complain. Yet a large majority didn't vote against this person. This being the case, they should not have a right to complain, because they just watched it happen. Then, when it comes to local elections, I feel it is as important. I have only been old enough to vote for one and I did. It was pretty exciting voting for the first time.
    Katherine Martin PSCI .04

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  18. I do not vote, I know as far as the presidential election my vote means nothing. However, you will have people saying "If you didn't vote you have no reason to complain" blah blah...I guess they don't get the fact that THEIR vote didn't really count either. I may never vote in a presidential election. As far as city and county members I don't vote either. I try and stay far away from politics, but its also from ignorance on my part, I do not keep up with it either. I'm to busy trying to avoid it rather than make sense of it. I don't think that even with this class (sorry) It will change my mind about voting, or if I will even go out of my way to self educate myself about politics in the issue. Ignorance is bliss, when it comes to politics for me.

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  20. I have not in the past, and do not intend to in the future to vote for a President. I have never seen the point in wasting my time thinking I'm making a difference if I were to. The Electoral College rules over all. I also have not been drawn to any of my options during each Presidential Election. Vote for one corrupt full of crap lying a-hole capitalist, or vote for the other corrupt full of crap lying a-hole capitalist? No thank you.
    As for city and council members, I feel more willing to vote now that I have been informed about it in class today. I did not have any interest in voting for the elected, regardless what or who it was for. Stubborn? Yes. Ignorant? Maybe, in the literal sense of not educating myself as to what each politician might have to say to "better" the U.S. But not ignorant in the sense that I would allow myself to be naive enough to think I'd make a difference when voting. Perhaps change can happen on a state level, and until then I suppose finding out what to vote for and against is the first step.

    Steven Orrence
    PSCI 100.05
    (Dr. Stump- I may have forgotten to type my last name in previous posts, my apoligies!)

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  21. Dee said: "What if NOBODY went to vote at all?"

    It seems possible that if no one voted then the lack of voting could be interpreted as:

    1. People are satisfied with the way things are
    2. People are apathetic, don't care, and believe that nothing will change
    3. People are calling the legitimacy of the elected officials and the electoral college into question

    This is why it is important for people to speak up when they don't vote.

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  22. We vote for the president because we want our country to be run the way we believe it should be. So, when we vote for president, we vote for someone e feel has the same beleifs, values, and dreams for our country. I have never voted for the president, obviously because elections weren't being held when I became legal age. But when I can, I still probably won't because of the flukes that have happened. The US citizens voting really makes no difference if its the electoral college votes that really matter. And truly, wether I like the way our government or not, I just roll with the punches.
    Ashley Everts PSCI 100.04

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  24. As long as I can remember my parents have been very politically active. My mom has worked for the Republican National Committee and I've been involved with her in the campaigning processes of 2002, 2004, and 2008. She has always been more concerned with local and state wide official elections and has made a point to be active within them. My family and I have been fortunate enough to meet several local officials of Hagerstown and the Washington County area and even had dinner with former Maryland Governor Bob Erlich. So, essentially I've had participation on local elections burned into my brain from the time I hit adolescence. I am thankful that my parents have relayed the importance of being familiar with the people who make the laws where I live.

    During my sophomore year of high school I was informed in AP Government on the inner workings of the Presidential Election system, namely the electoral college. Up until about 4 months ago I was too young to participate in the elections but because of the essentially "rigged" system I haven't decided whether or not I am going to participate in the Presidential Election in 2012. The biggest reason that I will most likely not participate is the behavior of the candidates during the campaigning season. The majority of candidates spend their campaign resources on pointing out the flaws of the other candidates whether they are true or not. The other parties are shown in such a negative light by the time voting comes it seems as though the voters must make a decision, the lesser of two evils. While this is true of the local and state elections as well, the presidential election candidates go above and beyond to ensure their opponents look as unappealing as possible.

    Sheridan Webb
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  25. I wasn't able to vote in the presidential elections because I was only 17 during the time. But if I was able to, I would have voted. Even though our votes don't count individually, they still do count. I was never really into politics until President Bush was running and since then I do tend to follow politics a bit more. People say there is no point in voting because all the candidates are liars and aren't worth voting for. Yeah, they all may be liars...but each candidate is different. We all should vote because whoever wins is going to be running our country and deciding whether our country goes downhill or uphill. We don't want someone to win whose going to ruin our country in a matter of months. But something I feel very strong about is that if you don't vote...then you have no room to complain about who the president or vice president or etc is. Because you had your chance to vote and make sure the right person was president and you chose not too.
    But, most people do not vote in their local elections because they feel they are not as important when they truly are. In reality, the local elections do affect you more than the presidential elections do. The local elections affect the area around you and the place you live. But at the same time some people don't even realize when or who are in the local elections because they aren't all over the media and newspapers as much. But overall it is very important to vote in any election because those people are going to be making the decisions about a lot and you want to make sure it is done properly.

    Alicia Watts 100.04

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  26. I have been 18 for a year now, just turned 19 and i have not yet even registered to vote for US presidents yet. My high school current events teacher always stressed how important it is for our generation to vote and be enguaged with things like voting because we are the future. I agree with Katelyn in that one vote won't make a difference. I try to keep up with the elections as they are going on just to be updated and not sound completely clueless when asked about it but other than that i have not voted. As far as community and city councils my best friend and neighbors father is a part of the senate so when it came for voting for local's i was always in on that because of my family and his family as well. There really is no difference between voting for city council and president i just think that voting for president takes a lot more effort in actually figuring out what exactly people want in a president to begin with.

    Christina Ferrara PSCI 100.03

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  27. When voting for President of the United States it is always a tough decision. I don’t feel like we really get any good options. I do go and vote and I base my decision on the lesser of two evils in my mind. I feel that both candidates prostitute themselves to the corporations who will pay them the most money. It is really sad to think that most of the people that I know feel the same way. It is really hard to truly know the issues that each candidate stands for because they say one thing and do something entirely different. Even though your vote might not count individually each vote adds up, which is why each vote is important. I do feel that if you don’t vote you really have no reason to complain about what is going on in the country. I would love to see some honest people run for office; I just don’t think they would win. The corporations would see to that. This country is run by big business.
    Karen Martin PSCI 100.04

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  28. I don't vote because i don't feel that i understand politics enough to decide which candidate has the right views and ideas and the reasonings for them. I don't vote for the local politicians because I am not home enough to know what is happening around my community and what they plan to do to better the community and i am unable to vote because i am at shepherd without a car to go home to vote and do not use the mail in ballads, and i don't know the local council. I do not participate in local forums because i do not know when the council meetings are held and like i said about voting i do not go home enough to make an impact in my opinion.
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  29. I do vote in local elections and have seen how the local vote can make a difference in overturning or integrarting legislation that affects the community. I try to read both the support for and against the issues on the ballot and make the best choice with the information I have. I also know many people who vote based on who has the most media attention and whose name they recognize when they get to the polls, althogh they may know nothing about what they stand for. I think most people do not attend council meetings or become more active in politics because the "officials" use confusing jargon and distort the issues until the average person becomes frustrated and unsure of what is really being said and just gives up. I'm sure this serves those running quite well and helps them to push their agendas forward while keeping many people in the dark. I agree with Prof. Stump when he says many would be surprised to learn of the Electoral College. We are taught from a young age that our vote counts when electing our president and this is reinforced by media around election time. I think if people really understood how the president is chosen, far less people would turn out to vote. Personally I feel that the candidates we have to choose from do not reflect the majority, but I will continue to exercise my right to vote. I think if we do not vote, we essentally tell the "elite" we do not care and do not value the right to be heard, even if no-one is listening. It was not too long ago when women and other minorities could not vote, and many fought long and hard against this inequality. What we take for granted, ciizens of other countries see as a privelege and continue to fight for the right to vote. If we do not exercise our rights whose to say they wont one day be taken away.

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  30. Ian Hickman 100.05 Local elections are very influential on our everyday lives and I believe it is important to participate in politics that effect us this way. Local votes give us the ability to vote on issues that directly will be seen in the community; from building new libraries, schools, and roads, to upgrading town buildings, or even changing the traffic rules in given areas. These are things that voicing your opinion by participating in local votes can do. The national poll, or the presidential election, does not impact me so much. As we discussed in class, at the end of the day, an appointed electoral college makes the final decision on who becomes president. 1 out of 3 times the general population is overruled by this committee and it’s an unfortunate flaw in our “democratic” system. I think electing the senator, governor, town council, city chairmen, ect. all have much more influence on my life, then voting for the President.

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  31. I was not old enough to vote in the last election because i was only 16 but i do plan on voting in the next election. I feel like if you do not vote then you have no right to complain about the end result. Although our vote may not directly choose the president it still chooses electors to vote. We should be glad that we even have the right to vote in elections because a lot of countries do not have that right. I also plan on voting in my county elections because their decisions directly affect me. The community i live in is fairly small and the people running for office are well known.
    Jenna Peck, 100.04

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  32. Voting for the president of the US is important for some, and gives those individuals a false sense that their vote matters in some way. However we are not given the option to actually elect the president. Instead we vote for congressmen/women who appoint an official to vote. To me this process is ridiculous, we should be able to actually elect who we want as president. Personally i don't vote because my vote shouldn't be for a popularity contest, but for the president. I do vote at the local level when i am able because localized elections impact me directly.

    Cordova, Jacob 100:05

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  33. I personally do not vote for the US president during the elections. However, I do feel it is necessary to participate in the election of officials on the state and local level. I personally voted last election. I did this because I knew my vote would count and the person I voted for would express my interest. The current process of the electoral college does not do this and in my opinion should somehow be reformed.

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  35. I have always heard that every vote counts, and one vote could make the difference. If you think about it, how often is the race that close where one vote is the deciding factor. Yes it happens but not very often. I personally will not vote if both parties are supporting something I do not agree on. But I am also aware that if every person decided to take that type of action, then many things would change. Another thing that comes to my mind when I think of not voting is that if you don't vote you don't have the right to complain about the current state of the government. So through weighing the options I believe that it is our duty to vote. Although there may be times they won't support absolutely everything you would like them to,but they won't be supporting anything if you don't at least get them into office

    Anissa Myers PSCI 100:04

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  36. I have never voted for a president mainly because I was not old enough in the last election. But after learning more about the Electoral College and how they are the one that make the decision, I feel as if my reason for voting for president remains the same… to get that little sticker that says I voted! Yo Vote’! Isn’t that why everyone votes?!?!?!
    Voting for city and county council members is more important than voting for president, not only because your vote counts in electing someone but also because you get another sticker!!!!

    Susan Stout
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  37. Before hearing this brought up in class and also on here again I never put much thought into why I voted. It's interesting I always new that electoral votes is what won the presidancy election. But it is such a stressed thing to get out there and VOTE. Everywhere you go during election is all about the voting and being an active part of your society. But in actuality you have no voice in who becomes president because it's all based on electoral college. Which is sad and absolutely ridicolous that our government is supposed to be "run by the people" but yet a selected few pic who are president ends up being. I will now think more on why I vote and definitely start to vote more for the city and town councils because they take care of much more around the place I'm living then world wide.


    Hanna Simane
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  38. I have never voted for a President before, considering the fact that I have been eighteen for less than a year now. But I have voted for my House of Representative member, back in 2010. And I must say, I never exactly felt too incredibly empowered when I cast that ballot. Considering the fact that there are tens of thousands of people who live in my home state of Virginia, I never felt like I really "rocked the vote" and changed anything in my country. So after that experience, I will probably never vote in a presidential election, because it's just like voting in a congressional election, but much more bureaucratic and annoying and you're still not having much of an impact at all. I also feel as though considering there are only two parties to choose from, it's not really helping our country get away from the problems those two parties have caused us with all their quarreling.

    Ross Tamaccio 100.03

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  39. Kathryn Stevens
    PSCI 100.04

    I recently voted for the president because I turned 18 and I feel that my mom had a little impact. I also feel that if there is an issue that I don't agree on or I think the president is doing a bad job I am allow to say it. Its like if someone is going on about how bad the President is and you ask "well did you vote", and the person says "no" then they don't have a right to say anything. Your vote could maybe be the one that chose or decides the President. I don't vote for the council or city members because I don't know them or pay any attention to their views. I feel that they play a small role instead of the President who decides the whole country.

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  40. Many people vote for the president because they believe somehow the person they vote for can bring change. In the last president election I did not vote. I do not know if I will vote next time. I feel one vote does not change anything. Every with my one vote the Electoral College decides who the next president will be. Maybe as I become older I will take part in politics more.
    Wayne Fleming 100.4

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  41. Being 22 years old I am pretty embarrassed to admit that I have rarely ever heard of the Electoral College, much less took the time to figure out what it is. Also, I really thought my vote counted when I walked into the polls and filled in those little bubbles, imagine my surprise! I voted for the president simply because I believed I was exercising my right to vote, even though I really had not paid much attention to the campaigns either past or present. While I was “voting” for the president I was neglecting my duties as a Jefferson County citizen by not voting for what really counted: city and county members. I did not grow up in a very political savvy family so these actions were simply from arrogance. Luckily, through this class and new relationships, I am learning and encouraged to discover more about these important issues, and I will start with figuring out who the council members are that represent me and the values they stand by.

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  42. Not that i vote myself, but i never feel like i know enough about the presidential elections to vote. I know my vote does not directly elect the president in office and that i would need to be knowledgeable about the other council members to be able to make an informed decision about which people to vote for. I know it is my duty to become informed about politics and the right people to vote into office so that my views and opinions could be expressed through the people that the general public is able to vote into office.

    Kindra Bittle
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  43. Me, personal I am not a huge political person because of how confusing it is and you never know what the government is telling you. I do think it is important to vote for your president but I dont like the way the government goes about doing so. Electoral College votes are pretty stupid after a couple years ago how Al Gore got cheated. It made no sense to me how Bush was able to overcome all the votes Gore had. I will continue to vote for our future presidents but i wont worry about how the government does the decision.

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  44. Honestly, I am not that involved with politics and don’t take interest in local elections as I should be realizing that they do directly impact myself and others. I have voted in the last national elections and it was my first. Voting and politics aren’t really that high on my priority list and I believe one of the reasons that I don’t value it as much may have something to do with how I haven’t experienced or dealt with anything outside my home or in the real world. I lack the knowledge and drive maybe because I am basically ignorant to the how deeply politics and such may have an impact in my life and others. I guess when I am living on my own and the environment and society around me has an effect on my daily life, I may take interest in local elections.
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  45. I don't think my vote counts at all. I know many other people feel this way as well. the only way i think my vote could matter is if I started a group and reqruited people who also weren't going to vote to vote for the same guy. I'd need to persuade them that their vote did count, all we had to do is talk to everyone we know and convince them the same, and have those people talk to other and so on. Otherwise I don't see how my vote can count. My thinking this dosen't matter much because it dosent impact anyone, and it won't be the tie breaking vote.

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  46. Honestly, I do not vote at all. I do not know if I will ever vote for the president just because I do not see a reason to. However I would vote for the small things that would make a difference, like senator or mayor. I have been saying “would vote” or “would not vote” because I have not signed up to vote yet and I do not see a reason to do so while in college. One would be because I do not have my own car and I do not see it being something very important while studying for my major. I am not home that much since I am away at college but maybe after college I will sign up to vote and then I will go to the school and vote for senator or something.

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  47. I have never voted in my life and I’m not sure I ever will. For the previous elections I have not be legally old enough to vote. I feel that if I do ever vote I won’t vote for the president because my vote does not directly affect the election of the president so essentially there is no point. As for city and county council members, I know that I am not educated enough to make an honest vote. Honestly, I don’t really care for politics, they are what they are and I personally believe that it takes more than one person to change something; therefore, my vote doesn’t really matter.

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  48. I have not been able to vote in a Presidential election. If I was givin the opportunity to vote in the last election I would probably drag my feet and wouldnt vote. Basically I dont really care who is in office because I find politics boring, whether or not it impacts me. I dont vote for city council members because once again I dont find any point to. There are unimportant issues that they talk about, I just feel that everyone is complaining about rediculous things in life. No I dont know my council memebers, and like I said politics is not important to me because its boring and everyone complains about something. Plus most politicians are corrupt and snakes. So no matter what I do or say as hard as I might things wont change for the better. I know this because how many people have tried it before and failed to do anything.

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  49. Over the past elections I have never voted because I wasn’t old enough to. I don’t know even now if I would vote for the President since it doesn’t even matter what the popular vote is just the Electoral College. It would even depend if I voted in the other election to because it would depend how much I know about the people up for election. I think that when you vote you should know about the people up for election and not just vote the way other people want you to. That’s why I will only vote when I know information about the people up for election and if I don’t know anything about them I won’t vote.

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  50. I have never voted for the President of the United States, and I don’t plan on voting probably ever. I was taught when I was younger about the electoral college and since then I have wondered why anyone would vote if they knew it didn’t count. I also have never voted for city and county council members, but that is just because I never have taken the time to educate myself about them. I would feel as if I would be voting for someone just to do it and I would not be making an educated vote to help out my particular city.

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  51. I voted in the last Presidential election. I knew my vote didn’t really count in a “one man = one vote” kind of way, but I never really knew that is didn’t count at all. Why all the hype about the presidential election than? Why are we encouraged to vote in high school? It doesn’t make sense. I feel like almost everyone is perpetuating this ignorance; celebrity enforcements and billions of dollars campaign funds to get you to go to the voting booth and throw a penny in the well.

    On the other hand, when your vote does count what do we have? Yard signs and cheep commercials. Stan The Mattress Man can afford better commercial then some of these local candidates. While presidential candidate are getting funding from other countries our local candidates can’t afford to get their message out. State elections also rarely have celebrity endorsements (except in California where the celebrities are the ones running.)

    The money issue set aside, it seems that some politicians in state elections are trying to keep people in the dark. Senators certainly have the money to throw into more campaigning. I think the lack of enthusiasm in state election leads to people reelecting the same people infinitely. After 8 or 9 consecutive terms you really don’t have to try to get your name out there. The encouragement of voters to vote when it doesn’t count and the apparent discouragement of voters to vote when it does count is enough to make me misanthropic.

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  52. I have not voted for president or for any other government offices. This is because at the time of the last election, I was not old enough. However, at our next election I will probably vote. The main reason I would vote is because my parents will be pushing me to do so. Although they will be telling me to vote, I will look into it to see who I want to vote for, not who they want me to vote for. I think it’s important to vote for your representatives, however there is not much say in anything that happens once those people are in. Things mainly lie at hand of the representatives we choose, rather than we the people in which the world affects. Im not big on politics but I do feel the need of voting for the right people in order to do right with our country.

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  53. When I was first able to vote my mom made it into a big deal because to her we where lucky to vote not only as individuals for the country we lived in but because long ago women where not allowed to vote so we must keep those rights scared then she made me where that stupid sticker that says “I voted“. I think the worse part about it was I didn’t even know the candidates I was voting for and what they stood for, I just went with the party I had chosen thinking they probably where making the better choices. But I can at least say I didn’t vote for bush not even once. Up until a few years ago I made my choices by choosing for the less of evils. But as of last year in my government class did I really find out for sure that our vote for president did not matter, and really a lot of people do not know that which bothers me extremely. After finding out I decided it was pretty useless to vote for the president and how corrupt our system is that the people are not allowed to elect there very own leader of their nation but a small group that no one knows probably consisting of very rich and very powerful people who are electing in there own interest and not for others. So now I vote very attentively finding out all the information I can on each candidate and what they bring to the table because I do believe that voting for at least our own county and state can bring a better change and maybe influence even the tiny bit of our presidential casting in the long run hopefully.

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  54. To be honest I think the only reason we vote is because of the people who tell us to are "popular". Such figures as Kanye West and so on and so forth. Granted there are some individuals who vote because they want to affect the government. Little do they know, popular vote does not even matter in the United States. It was shocking to me that my vote does not count, but after analyzing the fact I realized it's very true. There is no reason we as Americans should vote. It does not count anyway. Unless it is for the county representatives.
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  55. Due to my age I have not been able to vote in past presidential elections. Will I in the future? Sure, but only because it's a norm. We're taught at a young age that our votes make a difference and count and are encouraged to vote. I agree 100% with Derek. We vote because it's popular. I remember when starbucks got in trouble for giving out free coffee if you voted during the last election. Its bribes like that, that gets people to vote. I believe our votes are only important and only matter for local elections.
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  56. I have never voted before seeing how I was not 18 until recently. I most likely will not vote in the upcoming elcections because I learned about the electoral college in middle school. I feel like it is not worth it when your vote doesnt even go towards who is elected. Although I have never voted for president I have voted for things such as governor, senator, representatives. In order to make the right decision you need to know a little about the canadites.

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  57. Honestly, I'm happy that our individual votes don't elect the president. As it was stated in class in class, the presidential election for average citizens is just a popularity contest, hence the popular vote poll. I'm not speaking for everyone, but there are a lot of people that are ignorant to all the situations and incapable of making educated decisions. Voters may vote for a person based on race, sex, beliefs, presentation, etc.. Which is why I think it is better that people that are more involved get to make the decision. However, I have recently become of age to vote and may do so in local elections in the future.

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  58. I do not vote. For anything. There are many reasons why I do not vote. The biggest reason that I would not vote for President is because my vote does not matter. I did not always understand everything about the electoral college and such, but I never really felt that my vote would matter much in such a large-scale election. As for any other elections: I don't vote because I don't feel like I bother to gather enough information to vote for just one person. The issue with voting in our society is that people do not usually find out all of the necessary facts; they just vote however they please or by party association. For me to ever vote, it'd have to be for a pretty good reason and I'd have to fully understand all parties running and their views.
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  59. I do not vote for the president because I've never been politically minded or even concerned. I dont enjoy the debate process and it's more effort than I want to participate in. Local politics I now understand are more important but I still probably won't take the time to learn about my politicians and their opinions it's too much of a hassle to study other people when Im trying to keep my own life in order. Some might call me lazy but I feel more like being a hermit would be awesome I don't want to have to care about everyones problems or social situations I like to be left to myself I mean if people need help by all means they should get some as I would want it if needed I just don't like the process about how you obtain help. I dont know politics are just difficult to understand and I don't particularly want to participate. Anthony Harley 100.05

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  60. I graduated from a private school which happened to be very politically intune. Every year my history class would take a trip to Richmond and we would meet and discuss various issues with Virginia's representatives. Therefor, I have felt complelled to vote in local elections, and will continue to do so. I have not yet had the opportunity to vote in a presidential election. I was always under the impression that even though the individual votes of the people did not count they were taken into consideration by the electoral college. I have not yet decided whether or not Iwill vote in the next presidential election.

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  61. Voting for the president really is an idiotic thing to do when you think about it. Your vote really does not matter in the long run. yes people think it does but it does not. not voting also gives rise to people complaining about the president.

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  62. Ben Goldman
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    I vote because I have always heard every vote counts. Also, citizens like me would like to voice their opinion and you do that by voting. The news and press will release the information of the percentage of votes in America. This will then show you who the citizens want to be elected as the president. The electoral college can then make a justification and vote the complete opposite way, which does not seem to be to fair. Regardless, of this being fair or right, it happens and theres nothing you can do to stop it. Basically, if you want to vote, vote so your opinion can be heard in a sense.

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  63. In the last presidential election, I didn't vote mainly due to the fact that I wasn't old enough at the time. However, I realized, I probably would have voted if I had been old enough because I didn't really understand how the electoral college worked. I was however able to vote in the local and state elections last election day. These I now know to be more important due to their direct impact on our daily lives. We have more power locally which is something we should take advantage of. I will continue to vote for local elections, but I'm still unsure if I will vote in the umcomimg presidential elections.

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  64. If I had been able to vote in the last local election, I would have. My mom ran for Jefferson County Assessor one year, which opened my eyes to the impact that local policies have on our everyday lives. This was also the first time I attended a local debate, where people could see the candidates and interact with them in an open way. Although my mother wasn’t elected, the major thing she wanted to change has been enacted, and she appreciated that her voice was heard.

    Though my vote does not directly elect the president, I will be voting in the 2012 election. The electoral college has undermined the authority of the popular vote four times in the history of our country, but since we have had 44 presidents, that is 1 out of 11 elections in which the minority won. I don't like the idea of the electoral college because it is not accountable to anyone in particular, and I would like to see it abolished within my lifetime, but 4 out of 44 is not a terrible statistic. As long as I can wade through the misinformation and make an educated vote, I think my vote will count.

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  66. I only turned 18 this past fall so I have not had to contemplate the dilemma of whether to vote in the presidential election or not. Although the electoral college is the group of people who ultimately elect our president, I feel that if I didn't vote for president I would ask myself, "what if I had voted?" after the election outcomes came out. In my mind I am aware that my one little vote is not going to count at all in the presidential election, although if it isn't going to count anyway, and I want to vote, why not? What is it going to hurt? Now that I know how the electoral college works, I am aware that my vote does not count, but from all of the social and family pressure around me, I'm sure I will be voting in the next presidential election.

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  67. I personally do not vote for any elections for many of reasons. One of the major reasons is that I personally do not care who wins and I do not feel my vote or say on the matter counts. My parents tried to get me to participate in the voting process but I find it a hassle and I am a very unmotivated young adult when it comes to politics and electing people. I am a person who just goes with the flow of things. Our electoral college votes for us so whoever they vote for; we are stuck with despite who you wanted to win.

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  69. The reason most people vote for the President is because they want to feel like they have some part in how we govern our country, and i think voting has become looked at more or a chore, or neccesary duty rather than, making the next big step on how the policies and taxes etc. will be taken care of in the future. I also believe that the term " im not going to vote" has been on taboo for a long time now, but in reality the country was founded on a democractic republic and gives the election of the president mainly in the public's hands. If somebody chooses not to vote they are generally looked at as lazy or not interested in politics or maybe they just dont care. They never look at somebody who may think that the american government is corrupt and does not want to choose the lesser of two evils.

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  70. I don't vote for president. Not because I didn't chose for but because I was too young. Next election I will vote for president just so I can say that I voted. I've known about the electoral college for years yet I still feel pressure from others to go vote even though it doesn't matter.
    My local reps I will probably start going to vote for, but I never have. Just by being a little more educated on the matter makes me want to go vote because at least then my vote will matter.
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  72. I haven't voted for any type of election. Until this year, to be honest, was not intently focused on politics even though they affected my everyday life. I only was aware of who was running for president. It is shocking to me that even though millions of Americans vote every year, our opinion doesn't elect the person we chose. Instead a group of wealthy, party loyalists elect who they think would do a good job. The only reason I haven't voted is because I didn't think that my vote or opinion would make a difference or affect the outcome of the election and apparently I was right. Why should I waste my time to stand in a line and vote for someone when people who aren't like the "common American" get to decide who is the President? I also haven't ever voted for any local officials or been involved in any type of public meetings. I don't know why I haven't. I don't really have a particular reason for not participating in any local political parties or meetings.

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  73. I personally have not voted in any elections so far. I don’t feel I should vote because I don’t believe I am thoroughly educated in all the issues of what each candidate stands for. I believe there are far too many ignorant Americans voting and having no idea what the candidates stand for and voting for them anyways. Thus this country keeps digging itself a deeper and deeper hole because of ignorant people putting ignorant people in power. The next election I may vote depending on how well I know what the candidates stand for.
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  74. in my life, I have actually been very involved with my county councils and have actually attended some meetings. My mom is a director of a non profit organization and she must deal with the county government very often for budgeting and other important subjects. Also, my best friends dad was in the county council. Being so close to these people I learned a lot from attending these meetings. These meetings actually do effect policies that effect everyone in the community. Thats why I feel it is more important to vote for county, city, or state government positions rather then national posistions like the president. For example, in my moms case she is given a budget ever year for her company that is set by first the state government and then the county government. So basically the national governmet has not concern over the budget in the indiviual communties. This is why I feel community government voting is more important then national voting. But I will still vote for both when I get the chance.

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  75. I don't vote for the president of the united states. I feel like my vote wouldn't matter anyways due to electoral college. I feel that it is already set up who is going to win. In all honesty, I'm not a fan of politics. I don't like voting and probably never will. It's just one of those things that I will never do.

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  76. Voting, when it counts, is a way in which the people hold the power to rule themselves. But when a vote doesnt have the power to make a decision, then those who are voting lose power. In my view the fact that the presidential vote doesnt elect the president is an insult. I can deal with elite democracy, but to continue this "ruse" is just insulting to the people in my opinion. Brandon Nicholas psci 100.03

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  77. I have yet to vote for the president, I just turned eighteen last year. I had wanted to be able to vote though. Now that the question has been asked though...I really don't know why I want to vote. Perhaps it is just the fact that it has been so ingrained in my mind by society that I HAVE to vote. Now I'm rather split between the decision to either vote or not next election...after all, my vote doesn't matter. However, our opinions do let the senators and the electoral college know who would be the best candidate and the least likely to cause riots.

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  78. Oh, and the above post was by

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  79. I was grown up taught that without voting, you really don't have a say in what goes on in politics. You can sit there all day and complain about Obama or your local mayor but nothing is going to happen. If you don't put your voice out there. So, as soon as I turned 18 I registered to vote. So, whether I agreed or disagreed on what was going on in my politics I could have a voice in it.

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  80. I personally never vote for the president because my one vote does not make a difference. The votes are counted on who wins in the state and my one individual vote will not matter. I also did not vote this year because I do not agree with the candidates and they can sit up there and talk all they want about what they're going to do with our country but nothing ever happens. I would much rather vote for the local people in my county because I would have more say!

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  81. I have just turned 18, so I have never voted. I also do not fully understand what each candidate stands for or their political views. I hardly know he difference between Republican and Democratic, and now there are even more political parties. I am not really concerned or aware of much that goes on in the presidential election, or even the county council in New Jersey. People vote because they want to feel like they have a voice in governing this country. They give them a chance to vote, so the people take advantage of it.

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  82. I am 23 and I have never voted for the president. I dont think I ever will vote. I have also never voted for state representatives either simply for the fact that I was uneducated as to what their actual job was. After class this week it opened my eyes a lot to our electoral college and the whole system of voting. I dont really understand what the point of the popular vote is at all. I feel like its a pity vote so us Americans can feel like we have a say in everything we do.

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  83. I haven't had the chance to be able to vote for a president because the age I was when the presidential elections occurred. I have not voted in local elections becuase I don't know much about the people running. The only thing I have voted on is a bill passing for whether or not WV should use money for schools. I do with I had time to get more involoved in politics because I believe whether or not a person votes, he or shes should know who's leading thier country and what they stand for. It's important to knowing your surroundings and not living in total blindness.

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  84. I have only voted in one presidential election, but I am not very fond of doing it. I am not very fond of voting because I feel like every canidate has an issue, and they are all alike. They always claim to be from the "working class." I didn't even know that the electoral college elected the president. This will definately make me rethink voting. If my vote does not have any power, what is the point?

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  85. I have voted in the last election and it is the only one i have voted in so far. I think that it is good to vote because your voice is being heard, but at the same time it doesnt really matter because the electoral college decides the vote. I believe that alot of politics just say things to make people vote and then when they are elected they do nothing they promised and i personally do not agree with it. Plus they always claim to know what we as working class are going through and in reality they do not at all. Also if i dont elecvt the president then why should i waste my time and vote?

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  86. I did not vote in the last election, only because I was not old enough. Even if that wasnt the case, I feel that I still would not have voted. I dont care about politics as much as everyone else, there fore I dont know much about the canidates to vote. I feel that the president of the united states deals with alot more in the world that just me. Although he may be talking abut health care, that wont effect me for many of years. I would much reather vote for city council memebers, when I know they are going to change something around the community that will not only benefit me, but the people of the city. I dont think I will vote in the presidential election for a long time, souly on the fact that my vote doesnt matter.

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  87. I did not vote in the last election due to my age. I missed the date by a month. I was very upset because I really wanted to vote, but at the same time once I found out I would'nt be eligible to vote I kind of started paying less attention to the candidates and the entire system. I very much dislike the entire Electoral College system and think it is useless.

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  88. I did not put my name on my post. It is the one right before this one.

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  89. I have only been old enough to vote in one election, and as soon as I was old enough I told myself that I would never miss an election. I know that people make excuses of why our government isn’t truly democratic, fair, or representative, but I believe voting does have something to do with us as individual citizens. As Dee Pierce stated, “What if NOBODY went to vote?” To me, if no one voted because of all the excuses made, it would seem that no one really cares who was in power or what became of our country. Voting is our constitutional duty, whether everyone agrees to it or not. We DO influence the vote even if we don’t directly choose the president- that’s what the Electoral College is for. I believe that there could be changes made to our country’s electoral system, but I do not think that the excuses people make for not voting now are acceptable. Isn’t it interesting that over 200 years ago our “Founding Fathers” established this system of government and it continues to functioning today? Obviously it has done something right for our country. In Libertarian governments, more self interest groups play a part in elections. I think if our government could incorporate that idea somehow it would encourage more people to vote, concerning particular interests, instead of just one general party.

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  90. Voting for the president really is an idiotic thing to do when you think about it. Your vote really does not matter in the long run. yes people think it does but it does not. not voting also gives rise to people complaining about the president
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