Sunday, February 26, 2012

Libertarian Politics: What do you agree or disagree with?





This week we make a radical shift away from totalitarian governments to libertarian governments. These two ways of governing populations sit at opposite ends of the spectrum: 1) totalitarian systems work to dissolve individuals into the larger collective of the state and 2) libertarian systems celebrate individuals and their inherent rights -- these civil rights limit the state's ability to interfere in the lives of the individuals it governs.
Here are some of the Libertarian Party's positions on various social and political issues of our time. Read through them and respond to the questions I've asked at the end of the blog post.

1.0 Personal Liberty

Individuals should be free to make choices for themselves and to accept responsibility for the consequences of the choices they make. No individual, group, or government may initiate force against any other individual, group, or government. Our support of an individual's right to make choices in life does not mean that we necessarily approve or disapprove of those choices.

1.1 Expression and Communication

We support full freedom of expression and oppose government censorship, regulation or control of communications media and technology. We favor the freedom to engage in or abstain from any religious activities that do not violate the rights of others. We oppose government actions which either aid or attack any religion.

1.2 Personal Privacy

Libertarians support the rights recognized by the Fourth Amendment to be secure in our persons, homes, and property. Protection from unreasonable search and seizure should include records held by third parties, such as email, medical, and library records. Only actions that infringe on the rights of others can properly be termed crimes. We favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes.

1.3 Personal Relationships

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption,immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.

1.4 Abortion

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

1.5 Crime and Justice

Government exists to protect the rights of every individual including life, liberty and property. Criminal laws should be limited to violation of the rights of others through force or fraud, or deliberate actions that place others involuntarily at significant risk of harm. Individuals retain the right to voluntarily assume risk of harm to themselves. We support restitution of the victim to the fullest degree possible at the expense of the criminal or the negligent wrongdoer. We oppose reduction of constitutional safeguards of the rights of the criminally accused. The rights of due process, a speedy trial, legal counsel, trial by jury, and the legal presumption of innocence until proven guilty, must not be denied. We assert the common-law right of juries to judge not only the facts but also the justice of the law.

1.6 Self-Defense

The only legitimate use of force is in defense of individual rights — life, liberty, and justly acquired property — against aggression. This right inheres in the individual, who may agree to be aided by any other individual or group. We affirm the individual right recognized by the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms, and oppose the prosecution of individuals for exercising their rights of self-defense.
We oppose all laws at any level of government requiring registration of, or restricting, the ownership, manufacture, or transfer or sale of firearms or ammunition.

2.0 Economic Liberty

Libertarians want all members of society to have abundant opportunities to achieve economic success. A free and competitive market allocates resources in the most efficient manner. Each person has the right to offer goods and services to others on the free market. The only proper role of government in the economic realm is to protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected. All efforts by government to redistribute
wealth, or to control or manage trade, are improper in a free society.


2.1 Property and Contract

Property rights are entitled to the same protection as all other human rights. The owners of property have the full right to control, use, dispose of, or in any manner enjoy, their property without interference, until and unless the exercise of their control infringes the valid rights of others. We oppose all controls on wages, prices, rents, profits, production, and interest rates. We advocate the repeal of all laws banning or restricting the advertising of prices, products, or services. We oppose all violations of the right to private property, liberty of contract, and freedom of trade. The right to trade includes the right not to trade — for any reasons whatsoever. Where property, including land, has been taken from its rightful owners by the government or private action in violation of individual rights, we favor restitution to the rightful owners.


2.2 Environment

We support a clean and healthy environment and sensible use of our natural resources. Private landowners and conservation groups have a vested interest in maintaining natural resources. Pollution and misuse of resources cause damage to our ecosystem. Governments, unlike private businesses, are unaccountable for such damage done to our environment and have a terrible track record when it comes to environmental protection. Protecting the environment requires a clear definition and enforcement of individual rights in resources like land, water, air, and wildlife. Free markets and property rights stimulate the technological innovations and behavioral changes required to protect our environment and ecosystems. We realize that our planet's climate is constantly changing, but environmental advocates and social pressure are the most effective means of changing public behavior.

2.3 Energy and Resources

While energy is needed to fuel a modern society, government should not be subsidizing any particular form of energy. We oppose all government control of energy pricing, allocation, and production.

2.4 Government Finance and Spending

All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution. We oppose any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors. Government should not incur debt, which burdens future generations without their consent. We support the passage of a "Balanced Budget Amendment" to the U.S. Constitution, provided that the budget is balanced exclusively by cutting expenditures, and not by raising taxes.

2.5 Money and Financial Markets

We favor free-market banking, with unrestricted competition among banks and depository institutions of all types. Individuals engaged in voluntary exchange should be free to use as money any mutually agreeable commodity or item. We support a halt to inflationary monetary policies and unconstitutional legal tender laws.


2.6 Monopolies and Corporations

We defend the right of individuals to form corporations, cooperatives and other types of companies based on voluntary association. We seek to divest government of all functions that can be provided by non-governmental organizations or private individuals. We oppose government subsidies to business, labor, or any other special interest. Industries should be governed by free markets.

2.7 Labor Markets

We support repeal of all laws which impede the ability of any person to find employment. We oppose government-fostered forced retirement. We support the right of free persons to associate or not associate in labor unions, and an employer should have the right to recognize or refuse to recognize a union. We oppose government interference in bargaining, such as compulsory arbitration or imposing an obligation to bargain.

2.8 Education

Education, like any other service, is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Schools should be managed locally to achieve greater accountability and parental involvement. Recognizing that the education of children is inextricably linked to moral values, we would return authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government. In particular, parents should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children's education.


2.9 Health Care

We favor restoring and reviving a free market health care system. We recognize the freedom of individuals to determine the level of health insurance they want, the level of health care they want, the care providers they want, the medicines and treatments they will use and all other aspects of their medical care, including end-of-life decisions. People should be free to purchase health
insurance across state lines.


2.10 Retirement and Income Security

Retirement planning is the responsibility of the individual, not the government. Libertarians would phase out the current government-sponsored Social Security system and transition to a private voluntary system. The proper and most effective source of help for the poor is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals. We believe members of society will become more charitable and civil society will be strengthened as government reduces its activity in this realm.

3.0 Securing Liberty

The protection of individual rights is the only proper purpose of government. Government is constitutionally limited so as to prevent the infringement of individual rights by the government itself. The principle of non-initiation of force should guide the relationships between governments.

3.1 National Defense

We support the maintenance of a sufficient military to defend the United States against aggression. The United States should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as policeman for the world. We oppose any form of compulsory national service.

3.2 Internal Security and Individual Rights

The defense of the country requires that we have adequate intelligence to detect and to counter threats to domestic security. This requirement must not take priority over maintaining the civil liberties of our citizens. The Constitution and Bill of Rights shall not be suspended even during time of war. Intelligence agencies that legitimately seek to preserve the security of the nation must be subject to oversight and transparency. We oppose the government's use of secret classifications to keep from the public information that it should have, especially that which shows that the government has violated the law.

3.3 International Affairs

American foreign policy should seek an America at peace with the world. Our foreign policy should emphasize defense against attack from abroad and enhance the likelihood of peace by avoiding foreign entanglements. We would end the current U.S. government policy of foreign intervention, including military and economic aid. We recognize the right of all people to resist tyranny and defend themselves and their rights. We condemn the use of force, and especially the use of terrorism, against the innocent, regardless of whether such acts are committed by governments or by
political or revolutionary groups.

3.4 Free Trade and Migration

We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property.


3.5 Rights and Discrimination

We condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant. Government should not deny or abridge any individual's rights based on sex, wealth, race, color, creed, age, national origin, personal habits, political preference or sexual orientation. Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs.

3.6 Representative Government

We support electoral systems that are more representative of the electorate at the federal, state and local levels. As private voluntary groups, political parties should be allowed to establish their own rules for nomination procedures, primaries and conventions. We call for an end to any tax-financed subsidies to candidates or parties and the repeal of all laws which restrict voluntary financing of election campaigns. We oppose laws that effectively exclude alternative candidates and parties, deny ballot access, gerrymander districts, or deny the voters their right to consider all legitimate alternatives.


3.7 Self-Determination

Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of individual liberty, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to agree to such new governance as to them shall seem most likely to protect their liberty.


Take a moment, reflect on, and respond to the questions below:

Which one (or more than one) of these Libertarian positions do you find unacceptable? Why do you find it unacceptable? Or, do you agree with all of them? What about these Libertarian positions do you find agreeable? Why do you like them?

How would a libertarian respond to the assassination of an American citizen by the US President?

70 comments:

  1. 1.4 Abortions- i disagree with this matter i believe that government should be involved with this situation only because it shouldnt be done if a baby comes about between two people it shouldnt be a option to kill it
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    1. I agree completely with you, it is not the babys fault that the "parents" didnt use protection or whatever the cause may be. The government should make it illegal for doctors to do the procedures. They're taking lives and all parties involved should be held responsible.Kiana Weller 100:05

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    2. I agree 100% on this statement. It is not the chiild fault this his parents are not responsible enough to take care of a child let alone themseleves. They are taking an innoncent live and putting it to death. This is a awful thing to do to any child.

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    3. the above is Beth Haymond
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  2. I disagree with the abolishment of a government due to how some people may feel about it. The reason i say 3.7 Self Determination because its self. It focuses on the individuals wants and needs for a nation and that cannot happen you have sacrifice to gain the bigger things. Now not sacrificing freedom or anything but everyone has there own opinion and it would just be a lot of flip flop in government if we used this method. So i don't support it and find it unacceptable to live bye

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  3. I actually agree with almost all of these Libertarian positions, apart from the protection of large corporations. I see corporations as a huge cause of economic downfall, as well as a lot of environmental issues.
    I agree with ousting government taxation- especially since it's not used for what it should be and it's clearly not equal (example: Mitt Romney, one of the wealthiest people in America, invested over $22 million last year, yet was taxed less than most of us). I also agree with the government staying out of private issues, such as sexual orientation, abortion, etc.
    I think that the assassination of a citizen by the President would be completely unacceptable in a Libertarian government, as stated:
    "The rights of due process, a speedy trial, legal counsel, trial by jury, and the legal presumption of innocence until proven guilty, must not be denied. We assert the common-law right of juries to judge not only the facts but also the justice of the law."

    Brittany Custer
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  4. This article focuses on people wants and needs. In order to run a country you can not worry about the little things like that you need to worry about the bigger picture and the grand prize. Not saying we need to direct towards a dictatorship just that i disagree with the abolishment of a government due to the people.

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  5. There are points about this that one would seem to find admirable and even enticing.Of course, as with all things,most are not allowed to "pick and choose" as it were.

    I do not agree with the opposition of government involvement in censorship, regulation or control of communications media and technology. That non-interference would leave telephone, cell phones,cable, dish, satellite usage at the discretion of the moguls who own and run it.

    I do agree with the favor for the repeal of the laws creating "crimes" without victims,such as usage of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes. There are currently Doctors who prescribe Marijuana for cancer patients. And if this repeal went into effect, it would allow for another source of revenue for the government.

    I have always been an advocate of both freedom of choice in the manner of Personal Relationships. I even believe in abortion, under the right circumstances. The government denying an individual military service because they do not meet the preferred choice (kind of like Hitler),is a very hard concept for my brain to comprehend. Abortions to due incestuous relations (willing or not), molestation, or rape should not be questioned. If a woman is willing to carry the child to term, but does not want it, there are things as private adoptions or adoptions through the state (if the paperwork and inquiries weren't done like the Spanish Inquisition).

    There should be limitations on Self-Defense. You can't decide to invite someone over, they do something you don't like, so you decide to take a kitchen knife to their jugular, then claim it was "self-defense". Libertarian ways opens the door for Charles Bronson-esk type vigilantism.

    Needless to say, there are many things that every government party has that everyone wants but no one will compromise and form a party that will allow total agreement. Even if attempted, there would still be those in our country that wouldn't be satisfied. "You can't please all of the people all of the time"

    GJF
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  6. There are some views that I find completely ridiculous that they feel that the government should have no involvement at all. For example; with the environment, what I get out of what they are saying is that everyone should respect and love our environment, keep it clean, etc. but that if it doesn't stay this way it's not the governments fault and they aren't gonna do anything about it to try to improve it. Also, with abortion; yes it is a touchy subject and personally I do agree in the sense that it should be left up to the individual whether or not they think it is in their best interest or not to get one but I think it still is something that needs to be addressed. I do agree with the Personal Relationships because I think that gay marriage should be legal and that it doesn't and shouldn't matter if a man is marrying another man or woman or if a woman marries another woman. I also liked that they basically were saying that's your own personal life and that judgements will not be made based on sexual orientation, gender, etc. There are both some things I agree with and things I disagree with.

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  7. Abortion is an issue I find unacceptable. I believe life begins at conception and we are saying murder is okay if we say abortion is acceptable.
    Kimberly Clegg 100.03

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  8. I find having a abortion is a main issue with teenage girls today. I believe in safe sex and if you are old enough to have sex and get pregnant then it comes with a lot of responsibility. But having a abortion is basically killing a child. I think every child deserved to live and if the parents can't take care of them will at least give the baby up for adoption.

    Kevin Williams
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    1. So when a woman is raped by lets say a member of her own family and she gets pregnant, what should she do then? Have the kid? Have it come out, more likely than not, a physical or mental deformity? Is that what is best for that child? To live like that?

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    2. I believe if a woman gets raped by her own family then that is a different situation then yes she should have a abortion but anyone outside the family i believe she shouldn't because if you are having unprotected sex then you are must be planning to have a baby.

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  9. There are many of these that I don't agree with and there are many that I do agree with.

    I do agree with abortion. Especially in the case of rape. It is the woman's body. She should be able to do what she wants with it.

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  10. I agree with many of the points shown in the above blog, but the main things I have problems with are 2.8 and 3.1. In 2.8, it states that parents should be forced to covers all expenses which are incurred from the education of their child. I believe this will hinder some of the lower-level income families from educating their child/children. Additionally, if the lower level income family has 2+ children, I can imagine the costs would begin to become burdensome. This is not the proper way to better the future of our country. I agree with most of 3.1, however; I believe if the Untied States removes itself from foreign affairs (Iran, Iraq) and focuses on aspects within our own borders that does not mean we will be completely safe from possible terrorism. Just because we decreased our foreign affairs, I do not feel that the military should decrease. If the President was assassinated, I do not believe the majority of libertarians would care that much, unless they voted for the President, or had a vested interest in him/her.


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  11. http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35ho3j/

    I love it. Ron Paul is my homeboy. I like all of these points, if ever there was a form a government where people actually had access to their right, this is it. Call me a hippie, but this sounds pretty awesome to me. Far out.

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  12. I do agree with many of the libertarian points, but some i disagree with like points 2.8. Section 2.8 states that people must pay for their child's educations which could be a problem for people who cannot afford it. But I do agree that people should be do what they please to their body and anyone marry anyone they choose.

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  13. I partially disagree with 1.5, 1.6, and 2.8. 1.5 deals with Crime and Justice. I find it scary that the government wont have all the power to intervene on crimes happening. I also think the crime rate will increase. 1.6 deals with self-defense. I dont think anyone or everyone should be allowed to carry a gun, that is a scary thought also. And last 2.8 with the education. I agree with the girl above me in that everyone may not be able to afford to pay for education. It is great that education will be greater and offered at a higher level, however, everyone may not be able to afford that kind of education. I agree with a lot of the other points. I agree that abortion should be that individual women's choice. It is their individual freedom. I believe a Libertarian would freak out about the assassination of an American by the President. They would see that as aggression toward an individual.
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  14. I agree with most of these points except for the one about education. Education is a very important thing for everyone. it is the land scaping for the rest of your life. It says that parents should be accountable for their childs education. well sadly there are some parents who dont care about there childs education. also what if the parents cant afford for their children to go to school? the government is needed for schooling and under libertarian it is not involved. A libertarian would not handle the president killing an american citezin very well at all. It would be considered agression which is the oppisite of what they are all about..
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  15. I don't agree with the part in 1.2 about drug use. I do think some of the laws on recreational drug use should be more lax, but we do need regulation. I also disagree about part of 1.6, their should be restrictions for firearms and it should be required that you register firearms. I don't see whats so bad with the government knowing what weapons you have. I don't agree with the section on Economic Liberty, I really do believe government has the right to redistribute the wealth when one group becomes incredibly wealthy while the rest of the nation is getting poorer. The only section I strongly agree with is section 3.1 about National Defense. I agree that American needs to have a strong military force and that we need to stop trying to be the policeman of the world as much as we've done in the past decades.

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  16. All of these various social and political issues of our time are all very important topics but i have to disagree with a few. 2.3 Energy and Resources because we humans can find other ways to gain other useful resources and energy by going eco-friendly. Elelertic cars are coming out right? so gas prices should be going down with more of these electric cars are being produce. Also, the Property and Contract section I disagree with because this is your own personal matter not the government all spying on if you paid off your land or not i think there should be just one big payment at the end of each year to payoff the average monthly bills. Other then that i totally agree with all the other issues under a Libertarian Party's position.
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  17. ^Adding on Well i have to agree with all the other issues because all of them make sense in some sort of interesting and little way but a big way it effects our country's government system. I couldnt really tell how a Libertarian would act if the president would get assassination but i feel a libertarian would feel sadden to see a demorcratic leader like the president die but on the same time if he gets elected president he would change to his own ways into what he believes whats right for this country to become successful. (Brennan Fanning PSCI 100.03)

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  18. I disagree with 1.4, Abortion. It's my personal view, but I don't see it as my body, my choice, but more of you're taking the body of a child and destroying it. That's my opinion, personally. I also don't agree with 1.5, Crime and Justice. If someone is harming themselves, it may be okay to them, but they can be affecting the people around them. I don't think a mother or father should have to watch their child abuse drugs. That would be considered hurting other people. Maybe not physically but mentally and emotionally. Also if someone is an alcoholic, they would have that right to abuse alcohol, but what happens when they start to hurt others? The last one I don't agree with is 2.8, Education. A parent has the right to not send their child to school, possibly ruining the child's future. The child has no choice. What if a child wants to go to school, but the parent says no? I don't think it's responsible to let people choose whether the child receives an education or not. In a way, it's neglect because that child may grow up and not be able to get a job, therefore, wouldn't be able to take care of themselves.

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  19. I agree with the ability to be able to decide on your own whether or not abortion is the right choice to make. I believe that in certain situations abortion can be acceptable but people need to take responsiblity. They are the ones who are going through the thought of abortion not someone else so they need to do what they think is best. Also, dealing with personal relationships they shouldnt have to deal with the government effecting them because the way someone wants to live should be exceptable. No one should just be judged just because they may be invovled with the same gender.

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  20. I agreed with most of the points listed. They sounded fair and agreable to a free democracy. The one's that I especially agree with are 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 3.5, 3.6, and 2.6. I found that I disagreed with some for various resons. First was 1.5: we should still punshe people for other crimes, I agree that drug use is not a crime but a lot of other stuff is- like stealing even if no one get's hurt. I also have issues with 1.2 and 2.1; although I do agree with the right to have your own property be private sometimes- if there is a warrant it is nessacary. Warrants are imporatbnt- that law should be obeyed by all. Also 2.8 which I am a strong supporter of but some things must be checked out from time to time; like some school or parent teching there kids about murder and how it is good for instance. The American Nazis do this alot. Then last of all is 3.3 and the tax situation which ever one that was. We need to pay taxes; it should be taxtation with representaion though. Also sometimes we have to interfere in other countries problems but only if we can link it back to us or we are doing it as a whole to make a world difference and not just because we think we can help or to gain resources. Overall the standpoint is close to socialsm but also very true to the original goverment of America when it was first formed.

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  21. I disagree with 1.6 dealing wtih self defense. I don't think taht we need to be walking around with firearms like a western movie. I think that a few americans would take advantage of this and shoot people claiming it "Self-Defense" and if there are no witnesses than who will say he's lieing or telling the truth. I do agree with 1.1 Expression and communication. I think that we should be able to express ourselves as freely as we want to as long as it is not hurting others around us.
    Tyler Beard
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  22. I disagree with their economic policies like in 2.4 because I know you can't run a government with no taxes. We need protection so no one has to run around with guns avenging anyone that does something wrong. We need money from taxes so that we can have this protection. I think the government has too much power and it should be limited but not to the extreme that the Libertarians want.
    I also disagree with 2.5 because with unrestricted competition bamks can be bought out by other banks so there would create monoplies which goes to 2.6. Monoplies are dangerous because it isn't fair to the consumer. When one company controls lots of things and they are the only one that controls those things people have to buy from them so the prices can go as high as the company wants and government won't do anything about it. How is that fair to the individuals rights?

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  23. I dont necessarily agree with 2.4,because even though we do not enjoy giving money away....it helps fund our country to support everyone from welfare to Loan Max Title Loans, i think of it as, the fortunate helping the unfortunate. 1.6 i also disagree with because with all of the violence already in the world, it would create more. i have the option of shooting you right then and there and claiming self defence when it probably isnt that important anyway. Then the education point, i believe education is important.(off topic)I was watchin family guy and when they went to WV, they made it seem like we all live in trailers and play banjos. Without education we might as well break out the overalls and straw hats. What is our abilities to go out and say something?
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  24. I dont really agree with any of what they stand for. Americans can not even wash their hands after using the bath room, cover their mouth when they cough, or even exercise regularly with out someone telling them to. It is clear that in America if the way of life changed it would not pan out good because as a Nation we can not do anything by ourselves. We need regulation and alot of it. We have alot of regulations now and still people die everyday from DUI and from speeding and from texting while driving all three are common it car crashes and still people are doing it. At the same time those who are not complete idiots could and would enjoy the freedom to live freely.
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  25. I agree with most of the points listed above. I believe for the most part that freedom is a privilege and that we deserve freedom and we deserve to make our own decisions. However, there are some people that can't handle making their own decisions. So there is a little controversy if we should have more freedom and make our own decisions because we do have maniacs out there in the U.S. I still believe though that the libertarianisms views are more concerned about the person rather than a group, which i favor greatly.
    Tyler Messersmith
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  26. i agree with some of the liberal views, but there are also some that I do not agree with. I do not support the view of abortion, and that is probably from a religious stand point. but i do agree with some of the matters involving individual thought and action. but i do not think that a libertarian system would be functional in todays society because most americans would not know what to do with that freedom. i agree with an earlier post stating that americans can even wash their hands after the bathroom, go to the gym willingly or cover their cough without someone telling them. this is a sad thought but i dont think that todays americans can handle the thought of "i am an individual and i am responsible for me."

    Amanda James
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  27. I find a lot to like in the Libertarian position. For instance, their views on political parties are, for the most part, particularly agreeable to me, and the general idea of "get the government out of my private life" plays nicely - mostly - with my generally very conservative views. However, there are many things I disagree with: a strictly free market, for instance (2.5 and some of 2.6), is a bad idea. History tells us that - just remember the meat-packing industry of the early 20th century, that example I have cited so annoyingly often.

    As I have also said many times on this blog, on the discussion forum, and in class (and probably to the general irritation of all), everything in moderation. Libertarianism is too far to one side for me to buy into, just like socialism sits too far to the other side. This is why we have a MIXED market.

    In answer to the last question: a libertarian would be outraged at the assassination of an American citizen by the president. They would feel it to be a gross violation of the rights of the individual - after all, they specifically mentioned the right to life (bold, underlined, italicized, wink-wink, nudge-nudge), liberty, and property in their platform.

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  28. I actually agree with most of these issues. One that I have the biggest issue with is abortion. I do not support abortion, especially in the case of the man and woman weren't smart enough to use any type of protection or birth control. I do think in the case of rape that it is acceptable to proceed with an abortion process considering it was not a willing process.

    Taylor Hardee
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  29. I don't think America could ever run smoothly in a libertarian setting. We are just too lazy; we don't want to do anything for ourselves most of the time, and we are so used to getting things handed to us. A libertarian government doesn't have enough regulations to follow that would keep us in line and in check.

    I do, however, agree with many of the points that they have to offer. Like keeping the environment clean and giving us personal privacy. But there are quite a few things that I disagree with. I think all crimes should have a punishment, regardless if someone gets hurt or not. Like theft and robbery, breaking and entering, fraud, etc... Just because no harm was done doesn't make it less of a crime. A lie is still a lie no matter how you tell it. Also, I do not think we could survive without paying some form of taxes. And I don't know about you all, but I wouldn't mind having some social security after I retire from workings from age 16 to 62. That's a lot of hours going into work and I wouldn't mind relaxing later in life. Also, not everyone should have a gun... just saying.

    As much as I do not agree on abortion, for numerous reasons, I do agree however that the government should have NOTHING to do with an individuals decision on the matter, because the government does not know why the individual is making that decision. In the situation of rape, I think a woman has every right to have an abortion. Even when a doctor tells you that there is something (significantly) wrong with your child, like it will have no motor skills and will essentially be a vegetable, I feel like that is a good enough reason to have an abortion because the child will never "grow up." But for any other reason, man and woman should have had enough sense to know what happens when you do the whoopy.

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  30. I agree with many of these issues, definitely those about the treatment of the individual as well as their right to choose what they do with their body such as abortion, just because I personally would not have one, does not mean that a young woman who was raped or something of that nature would feel the same. Most Americans in today's society would agree that economic success is very important, so aid in achieving this success as well as the free market. Having a government with some control, but with the knowledge that they are still free to do what they want to be successful and not fear the consequences would be great. My personal "lifestyle choices" are not accepted by many members of our current government, but in a Libertarian governed society I would probably have more rights than I currently do, so this does appeal to me even more.
    If the president were to assassinate a citizen in this government I believe the president would then be impeached unless he had a very good reason for why that individual deserved to die. Considering that a libertarian government does not feel the need to search individuals without due cause, so they also should not feel the need to kill without due cause.
    While this form of government is very appealing, I'm sure that there would also be flaws if it were actually to be carried out. However in such turbulent times having such a peaceful government would probably be a welcome change to most.
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  31. I do not agree at all with abortion or letting individuals be able to do anything they please with their bodies. I think that it is good that we have a strong military and I think that we need to keep it. We should not get involved in another country's business unless they ask us to assist them or they directly threatened us, but I still feel the need to keep a striong military. Dealing with international affairs, we will never be at peace with the entire world, even if we stay out of other country's business, I am sure that some coultries will still not like the United States.

    I do agree that we should support a clean environment, but not to the point of focusing all of our attention on it.

    If the United States were to ever be run by a libertarian government, I think that people would not know what to do with all of the freedoms that they truly had. We have to have laws and regulations to keep society together and it would be too much of a change at one time. It would not run smoothly at all.

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  32. It's not that I find any of the policies unexceptable it's that I do not agree with some of the wording in the policies. As a part of the International Affairs policy I believe that when it says we will keep peace "by avoiding foreign entanglements." that the American government does not abide by it's own words. One the other hand, every other aspect I roughly agree with.

    I think a libertarian would be enraged by the US president stepping out of line and taking actions that are beyond his powers as the leader of a libertarian nation.

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  33. Out of the 26 positions discussed I find that I only question three of them; education, environment, and monopoly's. If it wasn't for government funded schools most Americans wouldn't be able to go to school at all and if I had to choose between a government funded education and no education I would have to say that the government should be involved with allowing everyone to have the ability to learn. I truly don't think that many Americans care or know what abuse humans cause the environment and the fact that 40% of that abuse comes from factories and 60% comes from everyday life for an average American. If the government wasn't involved in helping maintain the environment then it would be hell. There are ways to get around government interference and if humans took the initiative to learn about the environment and what you do to the environment then I think the American attitude toward life, and how you live your life would change just based on caring about the world you live in and knowing how much damage you do to it without thinking. If the government didn't keep down monopoly's then eventually there would be a monopoly on everything and the majority of people would be screwed, and the gap between the wealthy and poor would get bigger.
    The rest of the positions I agree with for the most part because I am supportive of human rights. You should be able to do what you want with your body, your property, and your life that you want and no one should be able to say your not aloud. As long as the act you choose to partake in doesn't harm another that is unwilling to be harmed then is should be up to you and you alone if you choose to partake in whatever it is.
    For the president to assassinate a citizen would be an abuse of power and a libertarian would have non of it. For the president to abuse someone that wasn't in an act of abusing him personally is an abuse of power.
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  34. I agree with all of the issues presented here. Citizens should have the ability to do whatever, whenever, with whoever, for however long, without the government getting involved.

    Libertarians would see an assassination of a US citizen by the President as an issue, besides there being no "President" in a libertarian standing. The issue would be that the President would have to suffer with equal punishment/ compensation to the departed's family.

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  35. Personally I think that there should be some sort of happy medium between the ideas of libertarianism and the democratic ideals we supposedly have currently. I do think government does over shoot their power in some areas such as moral issues like abortion and marriage but then almost turn a blind eye to issues that effect citizens on the whole like regulating safety precautions in plants and other corporate entities. But then whats easier to baffle people with moral constructs or create safer work environments possibly at the expense of the corporations that fund their campaigns? I don't think the Libertarians have it all right but I don't think the current situation is completely right either. It's a tough job to run a country filled with so many varying ideas of what should make us free.

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  36. Like everything, I believe that libertarianism and its ideals of a free market look good on paper. Its efficient to allow businesses who are successful to continue to succeed and businesses who are failing to continue to fail and die out. After all its the nature order of things... right? Maybe, but its not right. I do not believe that the government should just ignore failing businesses and have those workers fall into poverty. There must be some form of government regulations. I also do not believe in a flat tax. If you make more you pay more period. Although I do disagree with these aspects of libertarianism, I do like their ideals on the rights to religion, marriage, life, liberty, and property. I also agree that the military should solely be for defense and that the U.S. should not act as a peaceholder for other nations.

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  37. I dislike everything, it contradicts itself and would cause so many problems. I do think these ideas should be improved. The libertarians would disagree with the president assassinating a US citizen but with there laws there would be so many loopholes that anyone could get away with murder.

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  38. Some of the positions that caught my attention as unaceptable while reading through the list were 1.6, 2.1, and 2.4. I definitely do not agree with the fact that the Libertarian position opposes the registration of firearms and ammunition. I understand that we have the right to bear arms, but I think that not registering guns would create a massive amount of untraceable crimes and would be quite detrimental. I believe that position 2.1 Property and Contract is unacceptable because it calls to oppose any control on wages, prices, rents, profits, production, and interest rates. It there was not control over wages, there would be no minimum wage. People would be working for less than they already do. I also disagree with 2.4 Government Finance and Spending because without taxes there would basically be no social services. To be honest, as I was reading I found myself agreeing with part of some statements but finding a lot of fault in them as well. However, I strongly agreed with 3.5 Rights and Discrimination because I do not think that anyone should be discriminated against based on their sex, race, sexual orientation, and so forth.

    A Libertarian would view the assassination of a citizen by the President as against their ideology. They don't feel like the government should interfere with anything, and they are proponents of due process rights.

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  39. I agree with Libertarians on a lot of issues,as I consider my self a libertarian leaning conservative. However like with all things in life, I take issues with the libertarian stance on abortion, foreign policy, drugs,etc. I feel libertarians are an important part of the American political system, as they speak out for the individual and their rights and try to keep the government out of places it shouldn't be, but I don't necessarily want them in power.

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  40. I agree with mostly all of these positions except for 2.8 which deals with paying for your child’s schooling. A lot of people seemed to disagree with this one and I do too because most people could not afford that or just flat out do not care about their child’s schooling. So why would they pay money each year for them to go? The ones that stood out to me the most were the first two positions dealing with personal liberty and expression and communication. People value their freedom of speech and the freedom to make their own choices which is why they might be the first two points because they are so important.

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    1. I agree. I support most of these ideas except for the one concerning education. Making it so that education is a private business would make it so that only people with money would be able to get a good education, and as time went on, the poor would be more and more uneducated as the rich distanced themselves.

      On the flip side I agree completely with what they say about social issues being up to the individual and the government should keep it's nose out of it. Things like abortion and gay rights. The government should have no say in people's personal lives.

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  41. I agree with everyone other that 1.4 and 2.8. I don't think that parents should have to pay for schooling for there kids especially since its mandatory the government should have full control over that. With the abortion issue i think that they should make it illegal to kill a child, it is just like murdering an adult but just since its a baby people think that its okay to do. But at the end of they day its your life and you should be able to do what you want with the life you live. So if its not hurting the community then the government should have no control over the personal actions that occur in your life.
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  42. I agree with 1.3. People should be free to choose their on personal relationsips. Everyone should have the same rights and freedoms of marriage, adoption, and serving in the military. I disagree with 1.4. I think abortion should be illegal unless a female was rapped or a victim of incest.

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  43. 1.2 personal privacy- i feel as though you should have all reason to not be searched unless you have committed a crime, all of this breaking into houses of innocent people isnt right at all . so there for meaningless searches shouldnt be legal.
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  44. The only one I really find that I totally disagree with is 2.10 (Retirement and Income Security). And honestly, it’s not even that I totally disagree with it, but more like I’m not sure how the elimination of Social Security would affect our elderly citizens. More like I’d need to know more about how they plan on phasing it out. I’m afraid that this would have an extreme adverse effect. There are several of these policies that I agree fully with as I believe they are more in line with the Constitution. The ones I agree with are 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 2.7, 2.8, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, and 3.7. Several of these policies I am simply unsure how I feel about them as I can see the good and bad side of each of them. These are primarily economic policies and honestly I believe my uncertainty about these is derived from a place of ignorance as I am not well educated on the further implication of each of these (3.0, 2.9, 2.5, 2.4, 1.2, 2.0, 2.1, 1.6, 2.2, 2.3, 2.6, and 3.3). Hopefully with more knowledge of these I’d be able to take a more firm stance on either opposing or supporting them. I believe that a libertarian would be outraged by the assassination of a US citizen by the President. Their policies clearly state that they are opposed to the erasure of criminal’s rights (trial by jury, representation, etc).
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  45. I disagree with 1.3 personal relationships,1.5 crime and justice, and 1.6 self-defense. I don't think it would be a good idea to allow couples of the same sex to get married. It sends the wrong message to the youth by showing them this type of thing is okay. I disagree with the crime and justice outlook because w/o government intervention, too many crimes would go unsolved. And the idea of 1.6, being able to carry around weapons is skeptical because there would be much more murders rather than petty crimes. I agree mostly with health care and national defense. Health care should be provided to everyone and it should be their choice on how they choose to go about it. The military should also apply the principle of non-aggression being at war effects us more than helping us.

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  46. I agree with all of the topics except abortion and education. If education is going to be mandatory for everyone until a certain age then you should not have to pay for it. If it was an option for all, then I would agree with charging people for it. As far as abortion goes, I believe if you are going to have sex, you should take responsibility for the child that results. In my opinion abortion is like harming an individual, and that is not right. You shouldbe able to do what you want with your body, but you should not be allowed to harm others.

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  47. I agree with the topic of abortion because the government should not be able to tell you that you cannot have a abortion or tell you what to do with your child. Some others might think that having abortion is wrong but why bring a child into this earth if you not going to take care of it.

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  48. I agree with a lot of the Libertarian policies. I definitely agree and fully support 1.0-1.6. I disagree with their education policy the most. A lot of the people won’t be able to pay for their education and some won’t care. If everyone doesn’t have some form of education, then the United States cannot move forward as a society. Joseph Waters
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  49. Only because of the economy now and how much gas prices have gone up in the past decade I disagree with 2.3 energy and resources. There are pockets of oil and resources in America that we could tap into that would reduce the prices of gas and other imported good that use this fuel. They won’t drill because of the government environmentalists says it would be bad for the environment but on the other hand it would help our economy by making products more affordable. This is the only one that I disagree with, most of the others are laws that we abide by already that are sensible or in our Bill of Rights.

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  50. I agree with a good portion of the Libertarian Politics, it's just a key issues that I don't agree with. I don't agree with their view on abortion, because I believe life begins at conception and that once that life has begun it has a right to survive.
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  51. I agree with all the points accept the one dealing with firearms. I feel that carrying a gun is fine but there should still be restrictions in place similar to today's society and no one should be walking around with automatic weapons where they could go on a shooting spree at any time.

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  52. I agree with a lot of the points in the blog expect for the one about abortion. I feel as because the government should not be able to tell you, you have to have a baby if your pregnant not everyone is in the position finaically and it should be up to the mother if you wants to keep or abort the baby.

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  53. I disagree with the paying for your child's schooling. Many people today don't have the income to pay for that every year. While that is one issue, some kids just skip school and there is nothing their parents can do about it, so they would just not pay for them to go, as it would be pointless.

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  54. I agree with most points however some i do not. For instance when they are talking about the environment they say that it is the people's responsibility to keep it clean etc. and that the government is "unaccountable for doing damage" to me that does not make sense.A point that i do agree with however is the free health care system, expression and communication and personal liberty.

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  55. Which one (or more than one) of these Libertarian positions do you find unacceptable? Why do you find it unacceptable? Or, do you agree with all of them? What about these Libertarian positions do you find agreeable? Why do you like them?

    How would a libertarian respond to the assassination of an American citizen by the US President?


    There are several points that I disagree with. Education of children should not be left in the parents hands. A lot of people these days cant afford to pay for their childrens education and it were up to some parents their children wouldnt even be sent to school. Only reason they do go to school is because they are forced to by law. I also disagree with the retirement point. Most working class individuals in this economy wouldnt set aside money or invest in a private retirement plan. If they have the extra money now to pay the bills they will use it to do so leaving no retirement nest egg when the time comes. There are also some points I agree with like the rights and discrimination point. I like that libertarians want to put responsibilities back in the hands of the people but I believe that the people need to be guided by the government.
    I dont think a libertarian would support the assisination of an american citizen because they seem to really support civil liberties
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  56. On paper, any form of government seems perfect, especially when all the citizens under that government follow the rules to the T. Same thing can be said with Libertarianism. If everyone did what they were supposed to I could do anything i wanted with my day that wouldn't violate another citizen's rights. But that would be Utopia. It's human nature "rules are meant to be broken" and in a Libertaian government there is no concrete enforcement of the law. Thus anyone could continue ignoring others' consent and nothing would be done.

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  57. I think most of them are acceptable but more less then others. I think self defense should have more leeway because we should have to hesitate to defend ourselves if need be. The government should want us to be safe more then anything.

    The assassination of an American citizen by the US President would certainly piss off a libertarian public in that a person who is in total control of us made a decision that took away the right to live without any consent or even warning to the person who is being killed.
    I agree with some of their views as in us having more personal freedom, yet we need some higher form of overseeing power to make decisions otherwise everybody would want their way and there would be no compromise.

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  58. All of these points seem very idealistic at the face value of it. I would agree with most if not all of them, granted they are all held to the standards that each position is stating. I think these types of views have a great potential to make a great, strong state, it would just determine how the government would hold up to the standards and if the citizens are really willing to do some of the things that they may be held accountable for. Also, the fact that I do not think the public would hold up its end of the bargain would cause problems such as people being selfish and too much control of the upper class over the other classes.

    I would agree that the assassination of an American citizen would completely unhinge a libertarian public. Even as someone who is not so much a libertarian, any infringment on an American citizen like that is uncalled for.

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  59. I would agree with Libertarian government. I personally have conservative views for a liberal person and find Ron Paul a great candidate because although he is a "Republican" candidate, he supports freedoms for individuals and that people are in charge of their own lives.
    But of course everything is idealistic, and look great on paper.

    Obama vs. Paul, seems like a win-win situation

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  60. I would have to say that the Libertarian view is something I can agree with to a certain extent. I love how they are all about taking power from the government and essentially setting up guidelines for us to do what we will. That is how it should be but there are some cases where we still need the government such as in the case with the epa, we can't completely govern ourselves but I think I would choose the libertarian path over the Totalitarian anyday.
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  61. By and large I think they've got it right, but there are a few things I took issue with:

    "1.4 Abortion

    Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration."

    There are very compelling logical and BIOlogical reasons to protect unborn children from the moment of conception onwards: http://www.peterkreeft.com/audio/19_prolife-philosophy.htm.

    While I like the libertarian position's acknowledgement that "good-faith views" are held on either side of the issue, I think that the statement is only valuable in a vacuum. If we're going to have laws against Murder, Manslaughter, or Criminal Negligence then it logically follows that we should have laws against Abortion. Because even if we cannot prove to everyone's satisfaction that it is a child...moral responsibility still dictates that we err on the side of caution when dealing with something as valuable as human life. Otherwise it would be Criminal Negligence.

    "2.9 Health Care

    We favor restoring and reviving a free market health care system. We recognize the freedom of individuals to determine the level of health insurance they want, the level of health care they want, the care providers they want, the medicines and treatments they will use and all other aspects of their medical care, including end-of-life decisions. People should be free to purchase health
    insurance across state lines."

    While I agree we should have control of our healthcare, I worry that a perfectly competitive market would not exist, and people would still be (literally) left out in the cold. Some government intervention might be necessary here, I don't know.

    "3.3 International Affairs

    American foreign policy should seek an America at peace with the world. Our foreign policy should emphasize defense against attack from abroad and enhance the likelihood of peace by avoiding foreign entanglements. We would end the current U.S. government policy of foreign intervention, including military and economic aid. We recognize the right of all people to resist tyranny and defend themselves and their rights. We condemn the use of force, and especially the use of terrorism, against the innocent, regardless of whether such acts are committed by governments or by
    political or revolutionary groups."

    While I agree that we cannot be the world's police force, I also feel that there are certain global issues, (genocide for instance) that turning a blind eye to and not intervening for would be morally questionable. Natural disasters also I think merit world aid and this aid would promote peace and diplomacy.

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  62. I disagree with 3.7 Self Determination. I feel that the government should have a right to go into your car or home under the suspision that you may have something threatening to society. Or even smaller situations such as illegal gun possesion or drugs. I do agree with 1.6 self defense. I feel that using this would reduce the amount of crime that is in our big cities. Robbers and thieves may think twice about what they're going to do if they know that person may have a gun in their pocket ready to pull the trigger if the time ever approached.

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  63. I agree very much so with some of the points. I disagree with the point about obortion. There are also many points that i feel the government should mind there own and stay out of our personal lives and our everyday lives. I also like Ron Paul and the things he is doing.
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